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diff --git a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn index b3f3d6cc..be9cef50 100644 --- a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn +++ b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn @@ -8,9 +8,11 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] +<!-- [[!meta date="2011-07-19 23:42 UTC"]] +--> -A quarter of the Hurd, Q2 of 2011, PS: *Hurd truths and rumors*. +A quarter of the Hurd, Q2 of 2011, PS: *GNU Hurd Truths and Rumors*. [[!if test="included()" then="""[[!toggle id=full_news text="Details."]][[!toggleable id=full_news text="[[!paste id=full_news]]"]]""" else=" @@ -18,19 +20,46 @@ else=" [[!cut id="full_news" text=""" -After [[our latest Quarter of the Hurd|news/2011-q2]] has been picked up by slashdot and phoronix did some [performance tests of the Hurd][phorperf], discussions have been running all over the net. While we are happy to see that there obviously is quite some interest in the Hurd, we also saw some rumors and outdated information flowing around. We hope that we will be able to clear them up a bit. - -[phorperf]: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_gnu_hurd&num=1 - -* *Debian wants to replace Linux with the Hurd:* ✘ **Wrong**: We plan to get into Wheezy as an additional port besides Linux and kFreeBSD; but we don't know whether we will make it. It depends on a lot of factors, such as porting the DDE toolkit to inherit Linux 2.6 network card drivers, porting more packages, and finishing the existing support. If you want to help [[porting|hurd/porting]], please contact us: We need you! - -* *Hurd developers want Linux to die:* ✘ **Wrong**: All of us are happy Linux users, and GNU/Linux currently is the only free system you can actually give to nontechnical users (and make them happy with free software), so it is the most important tool for spreading free software. We don’t work on the Hurd because of some kind of hatred against Linux or Linus. We like and use Linux. We work on the Hurd, because of the [[additional possibilities and clean design|advantages]] it provides. - -* *Java support on the Hurd is in the works:* <u>✔ **True**</u>: Jérémie Koenig is working on porting Java (OpenJDK 7) as part of his [[gsoc_project|user/jkoenig/java]]. This should help us towards better archive coverage. It must however also be said that Java support *already* exists on the Hurd, through the gcj/ecj platform. jkoenig is also fixing a few important things there. - -* *The Hurd has no Xorg:* ✘ **Wrong**: X.Org *does* work -- see [[instructions|unsorted/DebianXorg]] (Some drivers won't work anymore, though, as they require DRM nowadays). - -* *The Hurd only runs on legacy hardware:* ✘ **Wrong**: The Hurd is only tested on a few platforms, but it likely runs on modern processors. If you want to see if it works for you, just test the [[LiveCD|hurd/running/live_cd]]. +After our last *[[Quarter of the Hurd|2011-q2]]* has been picked up by a bunch +of news sites, blogs, and so on, discussions have been running all over the +net. While we are happy to see that there obviously is quite some interest in +the GNU Hurd, we also saw some rumors and outdated information flowing around. +In the following, we try to clear the situation up a bit. + + * *Debian wants to replace the Linux kernel with the GNU Hurd*. {X} + **Wrong**. We plan to get into Wheezy as an additional port besides + GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD -- but we don't know whether we will make it. + It depends on a lot of factors, a lot of work is still to be done. If you + want to help, please see our [[contributing]] page and the *to do* list + maintained on <http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd>. + + * *GNU Hurd developers want the Linux kernel to die*. {X} **Wrong**. All of + us are happy users of the Linux kernel, every day, and GNU/Linux is the + free operating system of choice, which we're using ourselves (unless + sitting in front of a GNU/Hurd system). We don’t work on the GNU Hurd due + to any hatred against the Linux kernel or even Linus; we work on it because + of the [[additional capabilities and clean design|advantages]] that it + provides. + + * *Java support for GNU/Hurd is in the works*. (./) **True**. Jérémie + Koenig is working on making a versatile Java programming environment + available on the GNU/Hurd as part of his [[Google Summer of Code + project|user/jkoenig/java]], focussing on OpenJDK 7. Also, we already do + have support by the GCJ/ECJ platform, but this is not fully functional, and + Jérémie is improving that, too. + + * *GNU/Hurd has no support for X.org*. {X} **Wrong**. X.Org *does* work, + and has for a long time. (Anyone remember [1998's + XFree86](http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/hurd/hurd_video.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup), + by chance?) It is correct however that not a lot of advanced drivers work, + due to missing DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) support. + +[[tschwinge]] thinks that the following one is a bit questionable... + + * *The GNU/Hurd only runs on legacy hardware*. {X} **Wrong**. The GNU/Hurd + is only tested on a few platforms, but it likely runs on modern processors. + If you want to see if it works for you, just test a + [[hurd/running/Live_CD]]. * *Hurd only supports legacy devices:* ½ Partly True: Currently most drivers are from Linux 2.0. For network cards, Linux 2.6+ drivers are available through DDE, though (needs manual setup for now). With a good amount of work, DDE also allows porting other classes of drivers to allow using the drivers from recent Linux releases — and push them into userspace. @@ -58,3 +87,12 @@ And a non-explanation: [ipc]: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.51.16 """]] + +<!-- + +slashdot + +and phoronix did some [performance tests of the Hurd][phorperf], +[phorperf]: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_gnu_hurd&num=1 + +--> |