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+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-07-05
+
+    <pinotree> braunr: wrt to mach: it seems to me it ticks every 10ms or so,
+      it is true?
+    <braunr> yes
+    <braunr> and it's not preemptible
+    <pinotree> braunr: that means a gnumach kernel currently has a maximum
+      uptime of almost 500 days
+    <braunr> pinotree: what do you mean ?
+    <pinotree> there's an int (or uint, i don't remember) variable that keeps
+      the tick count
+    <braunr> yes the tick variable should probably be a 64-bits type
+    <braunr> or a struct
+    <braunr> but the tick count should only be used for computation on "short"
+      delays
+    <braunr> and it should be safe to use it even when it overflows
+    <braunr> it's not the wall clock
+    <pinotree> i found that when investigating why the maximum timeout for a
+      mach_msg is like INT_MAX >> 2 (or 4) or something like that, also due to
+      the tick count
+    <braunr> iirc, in linux, they mostly use the lower 32-bits on 32-bits
+      architecture, updating the 32 upper only when necessary