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# IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2012-09-24
<allesa> hello, I'm trying to get familiar with the Hurd and would like to
change the keyboard layout in use. It seems all the information I can
find (relating to console-driver-xkb) is out of date, with the latest
info relating to it being that this package should not be used anymore…
<allesa> does anyone know how changing keyboard layouts currently works?
<allesa> ah, never mind. I assume it doesn't currently work:
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/console.htmlq
<allesa> *http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/console.html
<youpi> it does actually work
<youpi> simply dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
<youpi> and reboot
<youpi> (see http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
<youpi> )
<allesa> mhm, I got that far — but selecting my layout gave me no joy, even
after restart. Seem to be stuck with the layout chosen during
installation (d-i). Just to check I'm using the right version — still on
the installer isos from 15 July?
<allesa> wait… progress is being made — slowly and subtly…
<allesa> Ok, so the XKBLAYOUT is changing as you described, but XKBVARIANT
seems to be ignored. Could this be right?
<youpi> yes, the hurd console only supports keymaps
<youpi> (currently)
<allesa> Ah OK, thanks for your help on this. I imagine this is not
something that just requires simple repetitive work, but some actual
hacking?
<allesa> to fix that is…
<youpi> some hacking yes
# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-07-10
<pinotree> http://xkbcommon.org/ ¡û sounds interesting for our console
translator
# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-01
[[!tag open_issue_hurd]]
<pinotree> teythoon_: df: `/dev/cons': Operation not supported
<pinotree> missing/stub implementation in the console translator?
## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-02
<teythoon_> pinotree: yes, df does file_statfs which fails
# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-22
<C-Keen> hello hurders! I happened to watch samuel's gnu hackers talk and
wanted to start to use the hurd more regularily. However I noticed that
when I use the preinstalled image, there seems to be some issue with the
console driver
<C-Keen> when I start emacs the mode line is drawn 3 times above the bottom
of the screen
<C-Keen> is this know or did I miss a step in setting it up? Or should I
use the debian installer and start from scratch again?
<youpi> C-Keen: it's probably unknown, and not an issue on your side. Did
you try to upgrade to the latest packages?
<C-Keen> youpi: doing that now
<C-Keen> my base image is debian-hurd-20130504.img
<youpi> still an issue with the latest packages indeed
<youpi> it seems emacs and the hurd console don't agree on the number of
lines...
<youpi> C-Keen: you can set TERM=vt100 to work around the issue
<C-Keen> ah alright.
<youpi> or TERM=linux
<C-Keen> youpi: can you start the emacs in X? I get an empty window here
<youpi> I never tried
<youpi> I never use emacs :)
<C-Keen> I see ;)
<youpi> it seems there's a bug in cud1 indeed
<C-Keen> what's cud1?
<youpi> see man 5 terminfo
<braunr> yes it's a terminfo problem
<braunr> the hurd console isn't well defined there
<youpi> braunr: actually it seems like a bug in emacs
<youpi> cud may or may not scroll the screen, depending on the
implementation
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