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authorThomas Schwinge <tschwinge@gnu.org>2012-03-17 12:31:07 +0100
committerThomas Schwinge <tschwinge@gnu.org>2012-03-17 12:31:07 +0100
commit3bf27c93ac4de57623809b71517116d51465f0e1 (patch)
treeec3edc96d8a3639651e722b401bf677bc9505c68 /hurd/translator
parent88ade4a03928041ad710594f3281b883528bc8ec (diff)
IRC bits.
Diffstat (limited to 'hurd/translator')
-rw-r--r--hurd/translator/devfs.mdwn25
-rw-r--r--hurd/translator/tmpfs/discussion.mdwn93
2 files changed, 115 insertions, 3 deletions
diff --git a/hurd/translator/devfs.mdwn b/hurd/translator/devfs.mdwn
index 27df23aa..8784e998 100644
--- a/hurd/translator/devfs.mdwn
+++ b/hurd/translator/devfs.mdwn
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
-[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009, 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
-is included in the section entitled
-[[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
`devfs` is a translator sitting on `/dev` and providing what is to be provided
in there in a dynamic fashion -- as compared to static passive translator
@@ -18,3 +18,22 @@ settings as they're used now.
If applicable, it has to be taken care that all code concerning the page-in
path is resident at all times.
+
+---
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-01-29
+
+ <pinotree> what would be an hurdish way to achieve something like the
+ various system (udev, devfs, devd, etc) for populating devices files
+ automatically according to the found system devices?
+ <pinotree> (not that i plan anything about that, just curious)
+ <youpi> it's not really a stupid question at all :)
+ <youpi> I guess translators in /dev
+ <youpi> such as a blockfs on /dev/block
+ <antrik> pinotree: in an ideal world (userspace drivers and all), the
+ device nodes will be exported by the drivers themselfs; and the drivers
+ will be launched by the bus respective bus driver
+ <antrik> an interesting aspect is what to do if we want a traditional flat
+ /dev directory with unique device names... probably need some
+ unionfs-like translator that collects the individual driver nodes in an
+ intelligent manner
diff --git a/hurd/translator/tmpfs/discussion.mdwn b/hurd/translator/tmpfs/discussion.mdwn
index 0409f046..1d441c7d 100644
--- a/hurd/translator/tmpfs/discussion.mdwn
+++ b/hurd/translator/tmpfs/discussion.mdwn
@@ -283,3 +283,96 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
<mcsim> what kind of log do you mean?
<antrik> vmstat 1 I mean
<mcsim> ah...
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-02-01
+
+ <mcsim> I run fsx with this command: fsx -N3000 foo/bar -S4
+ -l$((1024*1024*8)). And after 70 commands it breaks.
+ <mcsim> The strangeness is at address 0xc000 there is text, which was
+ printed in fsx with vfprintf
+ <mcsim> I've lost log. Wait a bit, while I generate new
+ <jkoenig_> mcsim, what's fsx / where can I find it ?
+ <mcsim> fsx is filesystem exersiser
+ <mcsim> http://codemonkey.org.uk/projects/fsx/
+ <jkoenig_> ok thanks
+ <mcsim> i use it to test tmpfs
+ <mcsim> here is fsx that compiles on linux: http://paste.debian.net/154390/
+ and Makefile for it: http://paste.debian.net/154392/
+ <jkoenig_> mcsim, hmm, I get a failure with ext2fs too, is it expected?
+ <mcsim> yes
+ <mcsim> i'll show you logs with tmpfs. They slightly differ
+ <mcsim> here: http://paste.debian.net/154399/
+ <mcsim> pre last operation is truncate
+ <mcsim> and last is read
+ <mcsim> during pre-last (or last) starting from address 0xa000, every
+ 0x1000 bytes appears text
+ <mcsim> skipping zero size read
+ <mcsim> skipping zero size read
+ <mcsim> truncating to largest ever: 0x705f4b
+ <mcsim> signal 2
+ <mcsim> testcalls = 38
+ <mcsim> this text is printed by fsx, by function prt
+ <mcsim> I've mistaken: this text appears even from every beginning
+ <mcsim> I know that this text appears exactly at this moment, because I
+ added check of the whole file after every step. And this error appeared
+ only after last truncation.
+ <mcsim> I think that the problem is in defpager (I'm fixing it), but I
+ don't understand where defpager could get this text
+ <jkoenig_> wow I get java code and debconf templates
+ <mcsim> So, my question is: is it possible for defpager to get somehow this
+ text?
+ <jkoenig_> possibly recycled, non-zeroed pages?
+ <mcsim> hmmm... probably you're right
+ <jkoenig_> 0x1000 bytes is consistent with the page size
+ <mcsim> Should I clean these pages in tmpfs?
+ <mcsim> or in defpager?
+ <mcsim> What is proper way?
+ <jkoenig_> mcsim, I'd say defpager should do it, to avoid leaking
+ information, I'm not sure though.
+ <jkoenig_> maybe tmpfs should also not assume the pages have been blanked
+ out.
+ <mcsim> if i do it in both, it could have big influence on performance.
+ <mcsim> i'll do it only in defpager so far.
+ <mcsim> jkoenig_: Thank you a lot
+ <jkoenig_> mcsim, no problem.
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-02-08
+
+ <tschwinge> mcsim: You pushed another branch with cleaned-up patches?
+ <mcsim> yes.
+ <tschwinge> mcsim: Anyway, any data from your report that we could be
+ interested in? (Though it's not in English.)
+ <mcsim> It's completely in ukrainian an and mostly describes some aspects
+ of hurd's work.
+ <tschwinge> mcsim: OK. So you ran out of time to do the benchmarking,
+ etc.?
+ <tschwinge> Comparing tmpfs to ext2fs with RAM backend, etc., I mean.
+ <mcsim> tschwinge: I made benchmarking and it turned out that tmpfs up to 6
+ times faster than ext2fs
+ <mcsim> tschwinge: is it possible to have a review of work, I've already
+ done, even if parallel writing doesn't work?
+ <tschwinge> mcsim: Do you need this for university or just a general review
+ for inclusion in the Git master branch?
+ <mcsim> general review
+ <tschwinge> Will need to find someone who feels competent to do that...
+ <mcsim> the branch that should be checked is tmpfs-final
+ <pinotree> cool, i guess you tested also special types of files like
+ sockets and pipes? (they are used in eg /run, /var/run or similar)
+ <mcsim> Oh. I accidentally created this branch. It is my private
+ branch. I'll delete it now and merge everything to mplaneta/tmpfs/master
+ <mcsim> pinotree: Completely forgot about them :( I'll do it by all means
+ <pinotree> mcsim: no worries :)
+ <mcsim> tschwinge: Ready. The right branch is mplaneta/tmpfs/master
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-03-07
+
+ <pinotree> did you test it with sockets and pipes?
+ <mcsim> pinotree: pipes work and sockets seems to work too (I've created
+ new pfinet device for them and pinged it).
+ <pinotree> try with simple C apps
+ <mcsim> Anyway all these are just translators, so there shouldn't be any
+ problems.
+ <mcsim> pinotree: works