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authorThomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com>2012-07-12 12:53:11 +0200
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+[[!meta title="Original proposal"]]
+
+*This is the proposal as it has been submitted to Google Summer of
+Code.*
+
+# The name of the project
+
+Virtualization Using Hurd Mechanisms
+
+# Summary
+
+The goal is to create tools that let a user create a set of servers
+that implement a Hurd environment and the necessary resources, with
+the possibility of relying on existing servers in the parent Hurd for
+some of them, instead of creating them.
+
+# Benefits
+
+This project will permit to create isolated systems but with far more
+flexibility than traditional virtualization tools, because the degree
+of isolation can be changed and possibly not only at creation time,
+and communication and sharing of subsystems can be arranged between
+isolated systems.
+
+# Deliverables
+
+D1 — User stories for the toolset, that will later serve as examples
+for the documentation
+
+D2 — Exhaustive but concise documentation of the set of needed servers
+making a working Hurd system (as much for me as for future users of
+the tool, building and linking to existing Hurd documentation)
+
+D3 — Low-level tool to create a working Hurd environment (possibly
+with strong limitations on the shape of the resources used by the
+environment, most probably on the underlying filesystem)
+
+D4 — Fake or noop servers for the documented set of needed servers, to
+be provided instead of working ones, where a feature is to be denied
+to a Hurd environnement
+
+D5 — Proxy servers, where desirable, to provide access to servers
+outside the environment (in ocaps terminology, caretakers)
+
+D6 — Extension of the low-level tool from D3 to remove its
+unreasonable limitations
+
+D7 — High-level tools to easily create environments and run programs
+in them (akin respectively to debootstrap and schroot)
+
+D8 — If possible, extensions to the D5 and D7 tools to enable dynamic
+modifications of the features and authority granted to environments
+and creation of multiple interconnected environments
+
+# Plan
+
+I intend to develop using the Scrum method, with sprints of two weeks,
+which mean that each two weeks, I will present at least one new
+working feature, working incrementally towards the full deliverable. I
+will also push my code at least once a day to a public Git hosting,
+including topic branches, so my progress can be followed easily.
+
+I intend to start from crosshurd and see how I can hook in its process
+of creation to allow being provided alternatives. Depending on how
+crosshurd is malleable to those changes, a modified crosshurd will
+either be a learning-stage prototype or the base of the
+implementation.
+
+To reuse Git terminology, once plumbing tools (i.e. tools that take
+detailed invocation information for each server) are working fine,
+I'll move on to porcelain tools, the final UI (i.e. tools that provide
+sensible default options, aliases mechanisms, etc.).
+
+# Communication
+
+I'm usually easy to reach through both email and jabber, so those and
+IRC will be my main way to inform my mentor and ask questions. I'll
+setup an ikiwiki to have a summary of the exchanges and the temporary
+documentation of the project (i.e. documentation that doesn't fit with
+the code yet).
+
+# Qualification
+
+Thansk to or because of my participation to the Hurd mailing lists,
+I've been utterly contaminated by the concept of POLA a few years
+ago. Since then, I've been longing, almost in a painful way, for a
+object-capability flavour of Debian. Having to deal in my previous day
+jobs with virtualization tools like Xen and VMWare when I knew there
+would be no need for paravirtualization or emulation to isolate
+systems in an object-capability OS only made it worst.
+
+Now most of the code I produce naturally becomes capability oriented,
+even if my underlying platform, programming language or OS, doesn't
+provide true capabilities. And creating true POLA systems and making
+it possible for others to benefit from POLA is now one of my dreams.
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+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+
+[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
+id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
+document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
+any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+[[!tag open_issue_hurd]]
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-04-22
+
+ <youpi> btw, I was wondering, when working on namespace mangling, did they
+ think about automatitioning ?
+ <youpi> autopartitioning, I meant
+ <youpi> i.e. with a foo.img file, open foo.img,,part1
+ <braunr> what are you referring to with namespace mangling
+ <youpi> and voila
+ <youpi> I don't remember the exact term they used
+ <braunr> you mean there is a hurd library that parses names and can direct
+ to different services depending on part of the name ?
+ <youpi> namespace-based_translator_selection
+ <youpi> yes
+ <braunr> i thought it only handled directories
+ <braunr> well, the classical path representation
+ * civodul finds it ugly
+ <youpi> civodul: because of potential conflict, and the not-too-nice ",,"
+ part?
+ <youpi> actually I wonder whether using directory access would be nicer
+ <youpi> i.e. you have a foo.gz, just open foo.gz/gunzip to get the unzipped
+ content
+ <youpi> and for foo.img.gz, open foo.img.gz/gunzip/part/1
+ <civodul> youpi: because of the interpretation of special chars in file
+ names
+ <civodul> users should be free to use any character they like in file names
+ <civodul> foo.gz/gunzip looks nicer to me
+ <youpi> ok, so we agree
+ <youpi> that said, the user could choose the separator
+ <youpi> the namespace can be not run by root for everybody, but just for
+ your shell, run by yourself
+ <antrik> civodul: the user can't use any character anyways... '/' and '\0'
+ are reserved :-P
+ <civodul> antrik: '/' isn't quite reserved on the Hurd :-)
+ <civodul> you could implement dir_lookup such that it does something
+ special about it
+ <civodul> (server-side)
+ <antrik> civodul: as for overloading '/', although I haven't thought it
+ through entirely, I guess that would work for nodes that present as files
+ normally. however, it would *not* work for directory nodes
+ <antrik> which would be quite a serious limitation IMHO
+ <antrik> I can think of various kinds of useful directory translators
+ <antrik> what's more, one of the main use cases I originally had in mind is
+ a policy filter
+ <antrik> you could pass a directory name with a appropriate filter applied
+ to tar for example, so it wouldn't try to follow any translators
+ <antrik> I don't see why taking an obscure prefix like ,, would be much of
+ a problem in practice anyways
+ <antrik> (also, it doesn't strictly prevent the user from having such file
+ names... you just need to escape it if accessing such files through the
+ namespace multiplexer. though admittedly that would need some special
+ handling in *some* programs to work properly)