Merge branch 'iki-master' of kepler:tmp/hurd/wiki/hurd-wiki.d

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	Distrib/WebHome.mdwn
	Hug/WebHome.mdwn

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diff --git a/Distrib/CDNotesHome.mdwn b/Distrib/CDNotesHome.mdwn
index db8a47cb..ec3a2d32 100644
--- a/Distrib/CDNotesHome.mdwn
+++ b/Distrib/CDNotesHome.mdwn
@@ -2,14 +2,18 @@ Charles, here's a place for you! As usual, you can find [more information here](
 
 ----
 
-What we need is a [[ReleaseHome]] page and to expand the system so that a chronological set of all releases from all the different distributions can be seen, but that's for another day. The [[HurdReleaseForm]] is in place already, it just needs to be updated with the other folks who are releasing distros. The hard part is to get the info that a particular distro is released on a particular date. Creating new Notes page is also a manual process due to the TWiki searches and comment box that need to be added to each one. Right now, I'm the only one who knows how or seems to have tried.
+It seems the building of the CDs is being passed to the University of Calicut. [Re: latest ISO images](http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2007/07/msg00095.html) K 14 is the latest stable, L1 is the development version.
 
--- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 03 Feb 2004
+-- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 24 Jul 2007
 
 Date search function borken, will be fixed in next TWiki base software upgrade.
 
 -- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 12 Mar 2005
 
+What we need is a [[ReleaseHome]] page and to expand the system so that a chronological set of all releases from all the different distributions can be seen, but that's for another day. The [[HurdReleaseForm]] is in place already, it just needs to be updated with the other folks who are releasing distros. The hard part is to get the info that a particular distro is released on a particular date. Creating new Notes page is also a manual process due to the TWiki searches and comment box that need to be added to each one. Right now, I'm the only one who knows how or seems to have tried.
+
+-- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 03 Feb 2004
+
 <table>
   <tr>
     <td valign="top" width="50%">
diff --git a/Distrib/DebianFAQ.mdwn b/Distrib/DebianFAQ.mdwn
index e66329ca..f302ed9d 100644
--- a/Distrib/DebianFAQ.mdwn
+++ b/Distrib/DebianFAQ.mdwn
@@ -78,6 +78,10 @@ If you want to use the _apt-get source_ facility, make sure that _/etc/apt/sourc
 
 The kernel logs are written to /dev/klog by Mach. Run "cat /dev/klog &gt; foo" as root and hit ctrl+c after a few seconds to catch the logs. You can do this only once and do not do this in single-user mode (where ctrl+c does not work).
 
+## <a name="_bad_hypermeta_data_"> \`bad hypermeta data' </a>
+
+If you get the error \`bad hypermeta data' when trying to mount an ext3 partition from GNU/Linux, that is usually because the file system has not been unmonted cleanly (maybe GNU/Linux got suspended to disk) and the Hurd cannot mount it as ext2 without checking. Either boot back into GNU/Linux remount it once or you can try to run "fsck.ext3" from GNU/Hurd directly.
+
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 Page started.
diff --git a/Distrib/HurdOnQEMU.mdwn b/Distrib/HurdOnQEMU.mdwn
index fc1b1a49..eead1b8c 100644
--- a/Distrib/HurdOnQEMU.mdwn
+++ b/Distrib/HurdOnQEMU.mdwn
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 # <a name="Hurd_on_QEMU"> </a> Hurd on QEMU
 
+... by the way, there is available an already prepared [disk image with an installation of the Debian distribution of GNU/Hurd](http://www.numenor.art.pl/balrog/hurd/) for QEMU.
+
 ## <a name="What_is_Needed"> What is Needed </a>
 
 1. First thing is to install [[QEMU]].
@@ -45,6 +47,18 @@ Now take the number of sectors for the beginning of the partition and multiply i
 
 ## <a name="Networking_in_QEMU"> </a> Networking in QEMU
 
+If you just want to access the internet from within QEMU, you can setup pfinet for QEMU's user-networking:
+
+    # settrans -afgp /servers/socket/2 /hurd/pfinet -i eth0 -a 10.0.2.15 -g 10.0.2.2 -m 255.255.255.0
+
+(See also <http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html#SEC30>.)
+
+Outgoing internet connections should just work then, although you might have to setup nameservers in `/etc/resolv.conf` as well.
+
+If you want to connect from the host system to the Hurd system running in QEMU, you need to setup something more advanced, like bridged networking.
+
+## <a name="Bridged_Networking"> Bridged Networking </a>
+
 ### <a name="What_is_Needed"> What is Needed </a>
 
 1. Your Linux kernel will need 802.1d Ethernet Bridging support and TUN/TAP device driver support.
@@ -89,3 +103,27 @@ These are links that users of [[HurdOnQEMU]] may find helpful.
 [[DebianAfterInstall]] - good source of information pertaining to your system after installation.
 
 [[Hurd/QemuImageForL4]] - a QEMU image for the Hurd/L4 project.
+
+## <a name="TODO"> </a> TODO
+
+[[Hurd/HurdIRC]], 2007-07-04.
+
+    <azeem-uni> so, is there a way to use a Debian GNU/Hurd partition (/dev/hda6) with qemu directly?
+    <tschwinge> Don't dare to do that, please.
+    <tschwinge> It will lead to inconsistencies.
+    <tschwinge> Because the Linux kernel thinks that it has complete control over the disk, or something.
+    <tschwinge> In theory you could run something like ``-hda /dev/hda'', having GRUB installed on there to offer you to boot your Hurd system from hda6 and that will even work, but then don't get the idea to stop qemu, mount that partition on your Linux system and restart qemu.  That's where I got lots of inconsistencies then, afterwards.
+    <azeem-uni> it's probably the same problem as having that partition mounted, suspending to disk, booting into it in the Hurd, and resume Linux
+    <neal> right
+    <tschwinge> That's a different problem.
+    <tschwinge> Then the partitoon is still mounted.
+    <neal> no, I think it is basically the same problem
+    <tschwinge> The file system stuff is cached in the kernel.
+    <neal> you have data that has not been written to disk yet
+    <tschwinge> Right.
+    <neal> and neither is prepared for the resource to be shared
+    <tschwinge> In the azeem-uni scenarion the data is on the file system layer and in my scenarion it's some disk block caching inside the Linux kernel, I guess.
+    <azeem-uni> anyway, do you guys think if I use -hda /dev/hda and tell Grub to boot off /dev/hda6, that the rest of hda should be fine, right?
+    <azeem-uni> maybe adding -snapshot makes it totally safe
+    <neal> azeem: Should be fine.
+    <tschwinge> Yes.
diff --git a/Distrib/WebDiscuss.mdwn b/Distrib/WebDiscuss.mdwn
index 6e4c663f..d2dc8756 100644
--- a/Distrib/WebDiscuss.mdwn
+++ b/Distrib/WebDiscuss.mdwn
@@ -33,3 +33,7 @@ Strange. Nope, the spaces in links and topic names are only visible when the wik
 However, we recently had a server upgrade (woody--&gt;sarge) that may have affected the apache settings. I'll look into it and post more here later.
 
 -- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 22 Sep 2004
+
+It is still having problems.
+
+-- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 24 Jul 2007
diff --git a/Distrib/WebHome.mdwn b/Distrib/WebHome.mdwn
index f6b416ac..a3666bfb 100644
--- a/Distrib/WebHome.mdwn
+++ b/Distrib/WebHome.mdwn
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+Sporadic efforts by numerous individuals have been made to keep the information in this wiki current. The hope that the primary development team would make this a canonical source has not been fulfilled. While some of the information and links here are still valid, unfortunately much is not.
+
+-- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 24 Jul 2007
+
 Jon: We need a better logo for this page - ever since the Gentoo and Bee movements got involved I've been thingking about fixing this logo, but I haven't had any time. Suggestions, gfx donations? -- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 30 Jun 2004
 
 # <a name="Getting_Your_GNU_Hurd_Running"> </a> Getting Your GNU/Hurd Running
@@ -20,6 +24,11 @@ This web is about the distribution of software: where and how to get it.
         <p>
         </p>
         <ul>
+          <li><a href="http://www.numenor.art.pl/balrog/hurd/" target="_top">A disk image with an installation of the Debian distribution of GNU/Hurd</a></li>
+        </ul>
+        <p>
+        </p>
+        <ul>
           <li>[[DebianFAQ]]</li>
         </ul>
         <p>