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Fsx still breaks. With 11 from 12 seeds, I tested the problem was in first 4 Kb. In 12th case problem was in range between 4 Kb and 8 Kb. I find this quite odd. Usual amount of operations before fsx breaks passes 100 000. UPD: The problem seems to be fixed. ## mach-defpager [[defpager|http://www.bddebian.com:8888/~hurd-web/user/Maksym_Planeta/#defpager81111]] [[http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-hurd@gnu.org/msg18859.html]] [[My patch that fixes tmpfs and defpager|http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-11/msg00086.html]] My vision of the problem in short: when user tries to access to the memory backed by tmpfs first time, kernel asks defpager to initialize memory object and sets it's request port to some value. But sometimes user directly accesses to defpager and supplies it own request port. So defpager should handle different request port, what causes errors. TODO: pager_extend always frees old pagemap and allocates new. Consider if it is necessary. ## Steps ### Find out what causes crashes in tmpfs with defpager [[http://www.gnu.org/s/hurd/hurd/translator/tmpfs/notes_various.html]] TODO: Consider deleting of parameter "port" in function mach-defpager/default_pager.c:pager_port_list_insert since this parameter is unused Probably pager_request shouldn't be stored because request may arrive from different kernels (or from kernel and translator), so this parameter doesn't have any sense. 22.11.11 Reading/writing for any size works, [[this|http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-11/msg00127.html]] works, but fsx test fails ([[see|http://www.bddebian.com:8888/~hurd-web/user/Maksym_Planeta/#fsx_fail2211]]). 24.11.11 The problem with fsx. Here are follow operations: 1. Write some data at address 0x100 with size 0x20 2. Truncate file to size 0x80. First written data should be lost. 3. Write some data at address 0x200 size of 0x20. By this operation file size is increased up to 0x220. 4. Read data at address 0x110. Fsx expects here zeros, but in fact here is data, that was written at step 1. When fsx tries to read data kernel calls pager with seqno_memory_object_data_request, and pager returns on step 4 zeros either with memory_object_data_provided or memory_object_data_unavailable. Before this, in default_pager_set_size memory_object_lock_request called to flush any kernel caches, that could hold data to be truncated. When I set offset to 0 and size to limit in memory_object_lock_request it appeared another error ([[see|http://www.bddebian.com:8888/~hurd-web/user/Maksym_Planeta/#fsx_fail2411]]). Both these behaviors appear to be quite strange for me. It is quite late now, so i put these notes to not forget this and went sleep. Continue tomorrow. 5.12.11 Here is a problem with writing by address, which was freed already. It happens in function dealloc_direct in macros invalidate_block. This function is called from pager_truncate in branch when condition "if (!INDIRECT_PAGEMAP(old_size))" is true. But I didn't find why reference to freed object is kept. As workaround we can reduce kalloc_max in hurd/mach-defpager/kalloc.c to 3 to make allocator use vm_allocate always. The drawback is that allocator will allocate only multiple of vm_page_size, but this is temporary tradeoff. Till now fsx reaches operation number 14277. 6.12.11 fsx works quite long and doesn't interrupt. I've stopped at 124784. Continued. It broke at 181091. 4.01.12 I've localized the problem. It is in these lines (starting approx. at hurd/mach-defpager/default_pager.c:1177): /* Now reduce the size of the direct map itself. We don't bother with kalloc/kfree if it's not shrinking enough that kalloc.c would actually use less. */ if (PAGEMAP_SIZE (new_size) <= PAGEMAP_SIZE (old_size) / 2) { const dp_map_t old_mapptr = pager->map; pager->map = (dp_map_t) kalloc (PAGEMAP_SIZE (new_size)); memcpy (pager->map, old_mapptr, PAGEMAP_SIZE (old_size)); my_tag |= 20; kfree ((char *) old_mapptr, PAGEMAP_SIZE (old_size)); } I didn't find out yet what is wrong here exactly, but when I exclude this code memory spoiling disappears. Still breaks at 181091. ### Write own pager 6.11.11 Reading/writing for files that fit in vm_page_size works 7.11.11 Works for any size. TODO: During execution tmpfs hangs in random places. The most possible is variant is deadlocks, because nothing was undertaken for thread safety. TODO: Make tmpfs use not more space than it was allowed. ### Make links work Symlinks behavior: [[links|http://www.bddebian.com:8888/~hurd-web/user/Maksym_Planeta/#links81111]] 8.11.11 Symlinks work. [[Patch by Ben Asselstine.|http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.hurd.bugs/11829/focus=12098]] ### After sometime of inactivity tmpfs exits. TODO: Find out why and correct this. > This may perhaps be the standard translator > shutdown-after-a-period-of-inactivity functionality? This is of course not > valid in the tmpfs case, as all its state (file system content) is not stored > on any non-volatile backend. Can this auto-shutdown functionality be > disabled (in [[hurd/libdiskfs]], perhaps? See `libdiskfs/init-first.c`, the > call to `ports_manage_port_operations_multithread`, the `global_timeout` > paramenter (see the [[hurd/reference_manual]]) (here: `server_timeout`). > Probably this should be set to `0` in tmpfs to disable timing out? > --[[tschwinge]] ### Passive translator doesn't work > Must be some bug: `diskfs_set_translator` is implemented in `node.c`, so this > is supposed to work. --[[tschwinge]] #Chalanges Translators vs FUSE: [[What can a translator do that FUSE can't?|http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-07/msg00061.html]] [[Re: Hurd translators on FUSE|http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/l4-hurd/2009-09/msg00146.html]] [[Example of sane utilization of filesystem stored in RAM|http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/gdev/131043/]] (Russian). Author of this article copied some resources of game "World of Tanks" to RAM-drive and game started load much faster. Although he used Windows in this article, this could be good example of benefits, which filesystem, stored in RAM, could give. #Debugging To debug tmpfs, using libraries from "$PWD"/lib and trace rpc: settrans -ca foo /usr/bin/env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$PWD"/lib utils/rpctrace -I /usr/share/msgids/ tmpfs/tmpfs 1M LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$PWD"/lib gdb tmpfs/tmpfs `pidof tmpfs` For debugging ext2fs: settrans --create --active ramdisk0 /hurd/storeio -T copy zero:32M && \ /sbin/mkfs.ext2 -F -b 4096 ramdisk0 && \ settrans --active --orphan ramdisk0 /usr/bin/env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$PWD"/lib utils/rpctrace -I /usr/share/msgids/ \ ext2fs/ext2fs.static ramdisk0 #Questions 1. What are sequence numbers? What are they used for? > See [[microkernel/mach/ipc/sequence_numbering]]. --[[tschwinge]] 2. Is there any way to debug mach-defpager? When I set breakpoint to any function in it, pager never breaks. > Is that still an unresolved problem? If not, what was the problem? --[[tschwinge]] 3. Is it normal that defpager panics and breaks on any wrong data? > No server must ever panic (or reach any other invalid state), whichever input > data it receives from untrusted sources (which may include every possible > source). All input data must be checked for validity before use; anything > else is a bug. --[[tschwinge]] #Links 1. [[Cthreads manuals|http://www.cc.gatech.edu/classes/cs6432_99_winter/threads_man/]] #Conversations ## 8.11.11 ### links (10:29:11) braunr: mcsim: ln -s foo/bar foo/baz means the link name is baz in the foo directory, and its target (relative to its directory) is foo/bar (which would mean /tmp/foo/foo/bar in canonical form) (10:29:42) braunr: youpi: tschwinge: what did ludovic achieve ? (10:30:06) tschwinge: mcsim: As Richard says, symlink targets are always relative to the directory they're contained in. (10:31:26) braunr: oh ok (10:31:27) mcsim: so, if I want to create link in cd, first I need to cd there? (10:31:36) mcsim: in foo* (10:31:36) braunr: mcsim: just provide the right paths (10:32:11) braunr: $ touch foo/bar (10:32:14) braunr: $ ln -s bar foo/baz (10:32:32) braunr: bar (10:32:35) braunr: baz -> bar ### defpager earlier: : 1. On every system there is a ``default pager'' (mach-defpager). That one is responsible for all ``anonymous memory''. For example, when you do malloc(10 MiB), and then there is memory pressure, this 10 MiB memory region is backed by the default pager, whose job then is it to provide the backing store for this. : This is what commonly would be known as a swap partition. : And this is also the way tmpfs works (as I understand it). : malloc(10 MiB) can also be mmap(MAP_ANONYMOUS, 10 MIB); that's the same, essentially. : Now, for ext2fs or any other disk-based file system, this is different: : The ext2fs translator implements its own backing store, namely it accesses the disk for storing changed file content, or to read in data from disk if a new file is opened. ... (10:36:14) mcsim: who else uses defpager besides tmpfs and kernel? (10:36:27) braunr: normally, nothing directly (10:37:04) mcsim: than why tmpfs should use defpager? (10:37:22) braunr: it's its backend (10:37:28) braunr: backign store rather (10:37:38) braunr: the backing store of most file systems are partitions (10:37:44) braunr: tmpfs has none, it uses the swap space (10:39:31) mcsim: if we allocate memory for tmpfs using vm_allocate, will it be able to use swap partition? (10:39:56) braunr: it should (10:40:27) braunr: vm_allocate just maps anonymous memory (10:41:27) braunr: anonymous memory uses swap space as its backing store too (10:43:47) braunr: but be aware that this part of the vm system is known to have deficiencies (10:44:14) braunr: which is why all mach based implementations have rewritten their default pager (10:45:11) mcsim: what kind of deficiencies? (10:45:16) braunr: bugs (10:45:39) braunr: and design issues, making anonymous memory fragmentation horrible ... (15:23:33) antrik: mcsim: vm_allocate doesn't return a memory object; so it can't be passed to clients for mmap() (15:50:37) mcsim: antrik: I use vm_allocate in pager_read_page (15:54:43) antrik: mcsim: well, that means that you have to actually implement a pager yourself (15:56:10) antrik: also, when the kernel asks the pager to write back some pages, it expects the memory to become free. if you are "paging" to ordinary anonymous memory, this doesn't happen; so I expect it to have a very bad effect on system performance (15:56:54) antrik: both can be avoided by just passing a real anonymous memory object, i.e. one provided by the defpager (15:57:07) antrik: only problem is that the current defpager implementation can't really handle that... #Pastes ## fsx test on 22.11.11 $ ~/src/fsx/fsx -W -R -t 4096 -w 4096 -r 4096 bar mapped writes DISABLED truncating to largest ever: 0x32000 truncating to largest ever: 0x39000 READ BAD DATA: offset = 0x16000, size = 0xd9a0 OFFSET GOOD BAD RANGE 0x1f000 0x0000 0x01a0 0x 2d14 operation# (mod 256) for the bad data may be 1 LOG DUMP (16 total operations): 1(1 mod 256): WRITE 0x1f000 thru 0x21d28 (0x2d29 bytes) HOLE ***WWWW 2(2 mod 256): WRITE 0x10000 thru 0x15bfe (0x5bff bytes) 3(3 mod 256): READ 0x1d000 thru 0x21668 (0x4669 bytes) 4(4 mod 256): READ 0xa000 thru 0x16a59 (0xca5a bytes) 5(5 mod 256): READ 0x8000 thru 0x8f2c (0xf2d bytes) 6(6 mod 256): READ 0xa000 thru 0x17fe8 (0xdfe9 bytes) 7(7 mod 256): READ 0x1b000 thru 0x20f33 (0x5f34 bytes) 8(8 mod 256): READ 0x15000 thru 0x1c05b (0x705c bytes) 9(9 mod 256): TRUNCATE UP from 0x21d29 to 0x32000 10(10 mod 256): READ 0x3000 thru 0x5431 (0x2432 bytes) 11(11 mod 256): WRITE 0x29000 thru 0x34745 (0xb746 bytes) EXTEND 12(12 mod 256): TRUNCATE DOWN from 0x34746 to 0x19000 ******WWWW 13(13 mod 256): READ 0x14000 thru 0x186d8 (0x46d9 bytes) 14(14 mod 256): TRUNCATE UP from 0x19000 to 0x39000 ******WWWW 15(15 mod 256): WRITE 0x28000 thru 0x3548c (0xd48d bytes) 16(16 mod 256): READ 0x16000 thru 0x2399f (0xd9a0 bytes) ***RRRR*** Correct content saved for comparison (maybe hexdump "bar" vs "bar.fsxgood") ## fsx test on 24.11.11 $ ~/src/fsx/fsx bar truncating to largest ever: 0x13e76 READ BAD DATA: offset = 0x1f62e, size = 0x2152 OFFSET GOOD BAD RANGE 0x1f62e 0x0206 0x0000 0x 213e operation# (mod 256) for the bad data unknown, check HOLE and EXTEND ops LOG DUMP (6 total operations): 1(1 mod 256): TRUNCATE UP from 0x0 to 0x13e76 2(2 mod 256): WRITE 0x17098 thru 0x26857 (0xf7c0 bytes) HOLE ***WWWW 3(3 mod 256): READ 0xc73e thru 0x1b801 (0xf0c4 bytes) 4(4 mod 256): MAPWRITE 0x32e00 thru 0x331fc (0x3fd bytes) 5(5 mod 256): MAPWRITE 0x7ac1 thru 0x11029 (0x9569 bytes) 6(6 mod 256): READ 0x1f62e thru 0x2177f (0x2152 bytes) ***RRRR*** Correct content saved for comparison (maybe hexdump "bar" vs "bar.fsxgood")