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# Xen dom0, hypervisor
/!\ Now that GNU Mach handles PAE you can use a PAE-enabled hypervisor.
You can either get binaries at or build them yourself.
- Copy `gnumach-xen-pae` and `hurd-modules` to your dom0 /boot. If you still have a non-PAE hypervisor, use `gnumach-xen-nonpae` instead.
- Copy `hurd` into `/etc/xen`, edit it for fixing access to your hurd / and swap
# GNU/Hurd system
/!\ You need an already installed [[GNU/Hurd_system|hurd/running]].
If you have a free partition, you can fdisk to type 0x83, create a filesystem using:
sudo mke2fs -b 4096 -I 128 -o hurd /dev/sda4
Replace /dev/sda4 with your partition. Install and use crosshurd to setup a GNU/Hurd system on this partition.
# /etc/xen/hurd configuration
There are two ways to boot a Hurd system: either directly boot gnumach, or boot it through PV-Grub. The former is a bit more complex.
## Directly booting gnumach
Here is a sample /etc/xen/hurd configuration
kernel = "/boot/gnumach-xen-pae"
memory = 512
disk = ['phy:sda4,hda,w']
extra = "root=device:hd0"
vif = [ '' ]
ramdisk = "/boot/hurd-modules"
`hurd-modules` from http://youpibouh.thefreecat.org/hurd-xen/ was built from a specific libc version,
/!\ This means that when using this image, your GNU/Hurd system also needs to have the same version!
It is preferrable to rebuild your own hurd-modules, using your own libc version, by using the
http://youpibouh.thefreecat.org/hurd-xen/build_hurd-modules script.
Suggestions about [[networking_configuration]] are available.
If you need stable MAC addresses, use a syntax like `vif = [
'mac=00:16:3e:XX:XX:XX, bridge=br0' ]`.
## Booting through pv-grub
# `pv-grub`
Starting from Xen 4.0, you can run the GNU Hurd using `pv-grub`.
Download http://youpibouh.thefreecat.org/hurd-xen/pv-grub.gz into /boot, and use the following for instance:
kernel = "/boot/pv-grub.gz"
memory = 512
disk = ['phy:sda4,hda,w']
extra = "(hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst"
vif = [ '' ]
extra is now the path to the grub config file, which must contain the usual grub
command to boot a hurd system.
# Running Hurd with Xen
To run Hurd with Xen, use:
xm create -c hurd
and gnumach should get started. Proceed with native-install.
export TERM=mach
./native-install
- If `xm` complains about networking (`vif could not be connected`), it's Xen scripts' fault, see Xen documentation for how to configure the network. The simplest way is network-bridge with fixed IPs (note that you need the bridge-utils package for this). You can also just disable networking by commenting the vif line in the config.
- If `xm` complains `Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'xc_dom_compat_check: guest type xen-3.0-x86_32 not supported by xen kernel, sorry\n')`, you most probably have a PAE-enabled hypervisor and a non-PAE gnumach. Either install and boot non-PAE hypervisor and kernel, or rebuilt gnumach in PAE mode.
# Partitions
You will need the following notation for the gnumach root= parameter:
root=part:2:device:hd0
to access the second partition of hd0, for instance.
You will also need to use the parted storeio module for the /dev entries, for instance:
settrans -fgap /dev/hd0s1 /hurd/storeio -T typed part:1:device:hd0
# Miscellaneous
[[Internals]].
[[!GNU_Savannah_task 5468]], [[!GNU_Savannah_task 6584]].
# Building from sources
If you want to generate your own gnumach kernel, see [[microkernel/mach/gnumach/building]], and use
./configure --enable-platform=xen
make
## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-11-09
youpi: would a limitation of 32 modules to hurd in pvgrub2 be a
problem?
*31
phcoder: probably not
youpi: ok
youpi: gnumach goes into infinite loop with "warning: nsec
0x000096dae65d2697 < lastnsec 0x000096db11dee20d". Second value stays
constant, first value loops from 0x000096da14968a59 to
0x000096db08bf359e. Not sure if the problem is on GRUB or gnumach ide
loops?!
that's the time coming from the hypervisor
not a problem from GRUB anyway
Yes, loops in steps of around 0x40 and comes back regularly.
Mmm, maybe it could be grub not properly setting up
hyp_shared_info.vcpu_info[], actually
i.e. the mfn in boot_info.shared_info
I don't think we write to shared page at all
could gnumach suffer from overflow on fast CPU?
next_start.shared_info = grub_xen_start_page_addr->shared_info;
And shared_info is machine address, so no need to adjust it
tsc_shift can be negative. Does gnumach handle this?
yes
here it's the base which doesn't change, actually
Do you mean this: system_time =
time->system_time; ?
But wait: ((delta * (unsigned64_t) mul) >> 32)
this overflows after 2^32 nanoseconds
which is about 4 seconds
I think this is the mistake
which is more or less what I see
Let me make a patch
does xen have some tickless feature now?
I'd expect the clock to get updated at least sometimes during 4
seconds :)
Hm, can't compile master:
./include/mach/xen.h:52:18: error: ‘MACH2PHYS_VIRT_START_PAE’
undeclared (first use in this function)
#define PFN_LIST MACH2PHYS_VIRT_START_PAE
Here is the patch: http://paste.debian.net/64857/
it's defined in xen/public/arch-x86/xen-x86_32.h
yes it is. Let's see why it's not included
Hm, for some reason it pulls 64-bit headers in
how do you cross-compile?
I use
./configure --host=i686-gnu CC='gcc -m32' LD='ld -melf_i386'
Yes. GRUB adds those itself
youpi: confirmed: my patch solves the problem
any yes: I tried with unpatched master and it fails
ok
phcoder: thanks!
Now I get plenty of "getcwd: cannot access parent directories:
Inappropriate file type or format". But I don't think it's grub-related
what do you get before that?
perhaps ext2fs doesn't get properly initialized
which module commande line do you get in the boot log?
perhaps it's simply a typo in there
http://paste.debian.net/64865/
$(task-create) $(task-resume) is missing at the end of the ext2fs
line indeed
in your paste it stops at $(
this is at the end of my console. I believe it to be
cosmetic. Let me reset console to some sane state
ok
the spurious event at the start is probably worth checking up
it looks like events that pvgrub2 should have eaten
(in its own drivers, before finishing shutting them down)
when redirecting console to file: http://paste.debian.net/64868/
could swapon have sth to do with it?
I'd be surprised
my guess it's because I use older userland (debian about May) and
new kernel (fresh from master)
the kernel hasn't really changed
you could rebuild the may-debian kernel with your patch to make
sure
but probably better trying to fix swapon first, at least
(even if that'd surprise me)
"trying fixiing* swapon", actually
it makes a difference :)
We actually never eat event on evtchn, we look into buffers to
check for response
ah, that's why
you should really eat the events too
in principle it wouldn't hurt not to, but you'd probably get
surprises
youpi: would doing EVTCHNOP_reset at the end be enough?
possibly, I don't know that one
looks like a good thing to do before handing control, indeed
/* Clear pending event to avoid unexpected behavior on
re-bind. */
evtchn_port_clear_pending(d1, chn1);
yes, it does clear the pending events
http://paste.debian.net/64870/
I did this: http://paste.debian.net/64871/
well, closing the event channels would be a good idea too
(reset does not only clear pending events, it also closes the event
channels)
well we can't close console one. So it leave to close disk ones
(the ones we allocated)
http://paste.debian.net/64875/
New log: http://paste.debian.net/64876/ (swapon fixed, given 1G
of memory)
ok, so it really is something else
looks like there is a space after $(task-resume) but can't tell
if it's real or comes from message
tottally artefact
youpi: this happens when booted in qemu with old kernel now. Now
my bet is on weird fs corruption or because I accessed it with Linux in
rw. In any case I feel like it's time to call it a port and commit
I'd say so, yes
Let's look what's remaining: vfb, vkbd and vif: don't need them
for first port commit. Hm, there is an issue of default configfile. What
is pvgrub default behaviour?
iirc it just enters the shell
I had implemented vfb and vkbd to get the graphical support, but
that's optional indeed
vif is useful for netboot only
ah, no, by default it runs dhcp --with-configfile
youpi: port committed to trunk
\o/
I was lamenting for 5 years that that wasn't happening :)
Citrix could have asked one of his engineers to work on it, really
documentation on using the port is still missing though
amazon EC2 users will be happy to upgrade from pv-grub to pv-grub2
:)
I asked some amazon guy at SuperComputing whether he knew how many
people were using pv-grub, but he told me that was customer private
information
Another interesting idea would be to switch between 64-bit and
32-bit domains somehow
yes, we were discussing about it at XenSource when I implemented
pv-grub
that's not really an easy thing
pvh would probably help there, again
in the end, we considered that it was usually not hard to select a
32bit or 64bit pv-grub depending on the userland bitness
we considered adding a hypercall to change the bitness of a domU,
but that's really involved
Well when you discussed i386 domains were still around
now it's only PAE and amd64 and they are very similar. Only few
gdt differ
well, switching from 32-PAE to 64 is not *so* hard
since a 32bit-loaded OS can fit in 64bit
the converse is more questionable of course
yes
still, it's really not easy for the hypervisor
it'd mean converting stuff here and there
most probably missing things here and there :)
Ok, not that important anyway
we felt it was too dangerous to promise the feature as working :)
heh, 5000 lines patch, just like my patch adding support to Mach :)
BTW do you know how to check if kernel supports dom0 ? Apparently
there is feature "privilegied" and dom0 kernels are supposed to have it
in notes but my linux one doesn't even though I'm in xen now
it's XENFEAT_dom0
called dom0 in the notes
http://paste.debian.net/64894/
well, maybe the hypervisor doesn't actually check it's there
phcoder: what does grub-mkstandalone?
puts all modules in memdisk which is embed into core
ah, ok
we didn't have to care about that in grub1 indeed :)
## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-11-09
youpi: now I get "hd0: dom0's VBD 768
(/home/phcoder/diskimg/debian-hurd-20130504.img,w) 3001MB"
but "start ext2fs: ext2fs: device:hd0s1: No such device or
address"
disk = [
'file:/home/phcoder/diskimg/debian-hurd-20130504.img,hda,w' ]
Hm, using "disk = [ 'phy:loop0,hda1,w' ]" instead worked (loop0
is an offset loop)
yes, xen disks don't support partitioning
and we haven't migrated userland to userland partitioning yet
[[hurd/libstore/part]].
# Host-side Writeback Caching
Optimization possible as it is with
[[QEMU|hurd/running/qemu/writeback_caching]]?
IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-06-08
youpi: does xen provide disk caching options ?
through a blktap, probably
ok
# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-11-09
youpi: debian-hurd-20130504.img apparently has a kernel without
xen note. Do I have to do sth special to get xen kernel?
phcoder: there's the -xen package for that
I haven't made the kernel hybrid
youpi: easiest way is probably to have different entry
points. You could even just link both of them at different addresses and
then glue together though it's not very efficient
it's also about all the privileged operations that have to be
replaced with PV operations
PVH will help with that regard
youpi: btw, I recommend compiling xen kernel for 686 and drop
non-pae