[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012, 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] The *proc server* (or, *process server*) implements some aspects of [[Unix]] processes. It is stated by `/hurd/init`. # "Unusual" PIDs [[!tag open_issue_hurd]] ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-08-10 <braunr> too bad the proc server has pid 0 <braunr> top & co won't show it ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2012-09-18 <pinotree> youpi: did you see https://enc.com.au/2012/09/careful-with-pids/' <pinotree> ? <youpi> nope ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2013-06-23 <teythoon> I've got this idea about the pid 1 issue you mentioned <teythoon> can't we just make init pid 1? <teythoon> I mean the mapping is rather arbitrary, we could make our init pid 2 or something and start sysvs init as pid 1 <pinotree> not totally sure it is that arbitrary up to the first 4-5 pids <teythoon> y is that? <pinotree> at least i see in hurd's code that /hurd/init is assumed as pid=1 <teythoon> hurds init that has to stick around for the fs translator sync? <pinotree> hurd's init does the basic server startup <pinotree> iirc it also takes care of shutdown/reboot <teythoon> that's what I meant <teythoon> and if it wouldn't have to stick around for the translator sync it could just exec sysvinit <teythoon> I just think it's easier to patch hurd than to remove the assumption that init is pid 1 from sysvinit ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-13 <braunr> teythoon: also, as a feature request, i'd like the proc server not to have pid 0, if you have any time to do that <braunr> so it appears in top and friends <teythoon> braunr: noted, that should be easy <teythoon> not using 0 is probably a good thing, many things use pid 0 as something special # Process Discovery ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-08-26 < teythoon> somewhat related, I do not like the way the proc server just creates processes for new mach tasks it discovers < teythoon> that does not play well with subhurds for example < braunr> teythoon: i agree with you on proc process-to-task mapping < braunr> that's something i intend to completely rework on propel < braunr> in a way similar to how pid namespaces work on linux