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For delivering a signal, Mach forwards an `msg_sig_post` message from the
invoker of `kill` to the target process.  The target process' [[signal_thread]]
job is it to listen to such messages and to set up signal handler contexts in
other threads.


# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-04-20

[[!tag open_issue_documentation]]

    <braunr> bugs around signals are very tricky
    <braunr> signals are actually the most hairy part of the hurd
    <braunr> and the reason they're aynchronous is that they're handled by a
      second thread
    <braunr> (so yes, every process on the hurd has at least two threads)
    <svante_> braunr: How to solve the asynch problem then if every process has
      two threads?
    <braunr> the easiest method would be to align ourselves on what most other
      Unices do
    <braunr> establish a "signal protocol" between kernel and userspace
    <braunr> with a set of signal info in a table, most likely at the top of
      the stack
    <braunr> but this is explicitely what the original Mach developers didn't
      want, and they were right IMO
    <braunr> having two threads is very clean, but it creates incompatibilites
      with what POSIX requires
    <braunr> so there might be a radical choice to make here
    <braunr> and i doubt we have the resources to make it happen
    <svante_> What is the advantage of having two threads per process, a per
      the original design?
    <braunr> it's clean
    <braunr> you don't have to define async-signal-safe functions
    <braunr> it's like using sigwait() yourself in a separate thread, or
      multiplexing them through signalfd()
    <svante_> Regardless of the advantages, isn't two threads per process a
      waste of resources?
    <braunr> sure it is
    <braunr> but does it really matter ?
    <braunr> mach and the hurd were intended to be "hyperthreaded"

[[service_solahart_jakarta_selatan__082122541663/multithreading]].


# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-17

    <teythoon> I just realized that I know next to nothing about signal
      handling on the Hurd...
    <teythoon> especially /hurd/inits role in it
    <teythoon> reading glibcs kill.c it does not involve /hurd/init at all, but
      /hurd/init is full of proxying code for the msg protocol
    <teythoon> ah, /hurd/init mitms the signal handling logic in the libc for
      its own signals
    <teythoon> for msg_sig_post it sends a reply immediately, and then
      processes the signal, I wonder why that is done
    <teythoon> also it "forwards" any signals it receives to the child it
      spawned (like /etc/hurd/runsystem), I wonder why...
    <teythoon> good thing the comments tell what is done, not why...
    <teythoon> so in theory kill -HUP 1 should have been forwarded to the
      "runsystem" process, I wonder why that does not work if that one execs
      sysvinit
    <braunr> teythoon: can't help you there :/
    <teythoon> braunr: I think I sorted it out on my own, we'll see how that
      works out in practice ;)
    <braunr> good


## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-18

    <teythoon> braunr: I figured out why /hurd/init does this strange thing
      with the msg protocol
    <teythoon> braunr: it has no signal thread
    <teythoon> I wonder how /hurd/exec and the initial filesystem handle
      this...
    <teythoon> err, afaics the signal thread is created in fork(), so any
      process not created using it (ie manually using task_create) should lack
      the signal thread, no?
    <teythoon> that'd be the root fs, /hurd/{exec,init,auth,proc} and
      /etc/hurd/runsystem (the child started by /hurd/init)
    <teythoon> but I see only /hurd/init doing something about it, namely
      setting a msgport and handling the msg protocol, relaying any messages to
      the signal handling logic in the glibc