[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] [[!tag open_issue_documentation]] # IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-02-01 <marcusb> I remember the time when we had a /usr symlink. Now fedora 17 will move / to /usr and have /foo symlinks. :) <marcusb> braunr: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge <marcusb> braunr: fedora and others are merging /bin, /sbin and some other into /usr <marcusb> braunr: back in 1998 we tried for two years or so to have /usr -> .. in Debian GNU/Hurd, but eventually we gave up on it, because it broke some stuff <gnu_srs> marcusb: Hi, which one is better (in your opinion): / or /usr? <marcusb> gnu_srs: fedora says that using /usr allows better separation of distribution files and machine-local files <braunr> marcusb: won't it break remote /usr ? <marcusb> so you can atomically mount the OS files to /usr <marcusb> gnu_srs: but in the end, it's a wash <marcusb> personally, I think every package should get its own directory <braunr> marcusb: what PATH then ? <marcusb> braunr: well, I guess you'd want to assemble a union filesystem for a POSIX shell <braunr> marcusb: i don't see what you mean :/ <braunr> ah this comes from Lennart Poettering <marcusb> braunr: check out for example how http://nixos.org/ does it <manuel> braunr: something like, union /package1/bin /package2/bin /package3/bin for /bin, /package1/lib /package2/lib /package3/lib for /lib, etc. I guess <braunr> manuel: would that scale well ? <marcusb> the idea that there is only one correct binary for each program with the name foo is noble, but a complete illusion that hides the complexity of the actual configuration management task <braunr> marcusb: right