From 1fe96858be907d24912ccc3730a1246e6f410d16 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:36 +0200 Subject: Mention Debian Hurd release --- hurd/status.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) (limited to 'hurd') diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index ce9e01dd..bb8a1243 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ align="right" [[Debian GNU/Hurd|running/debian]] closely tracks the progress of the Hurd (and often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are -available. The most recent version of the Debian GNU/Hurd port at the time of -writing was published on 2013 January 5th. Debian Wheezy will unfortunately not officially release officially the Hurd port, an unofficial release will however be available. +available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made +on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 8d7ba1c0bd6402af6917caa1825d247715f92741 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmjRGuNcPKr2jQhph5RAhn6scPXIaO4VUk" Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:48:44 +0200 Subject: --- hurd/status.mdwn | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---- 1 file changed, 28 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) (limited to 'hurd') diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index bb8a1243..bc9beda1 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -28,12 +28,13 @@ several instances of the Hurd in parallel, and debug even critical servers in one Hurd instance with gdb running on another Hurd instance. You can run the X window system, applications that use it such as gnumeric, iceweasel, and advanced server applications like the Apache webserver. +GNU/Linux network driver supports was included some time ago via the DDE environment, +and experimental support for SATA devices was very recently added. -On the negative side, the support for character devices (like sound +On the features side, support for character devices (like sound cards) and other hardware (USB, multicore) is mostly missing. Although the [[POSIX interface|faq/posix_compatibility]] is provided, some additional interfaces -like POSIX shared -memory or semaphores are still under development. +like POSIX shared memory or semaphores are still under development. All this applies to the current development version, and not to the last release (0.2). We encourage everybody who is interested to try @@ -53,7 +54,7 @@ align="right" often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made -on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. +in May 2013 along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. @@ -73,6 +74,29 @@ possibility that they would want to try the Hurd again in the future. ## Usability Reports +### Svante Signell, 2013-05-21 + +I have been running GNU/Hurd for some years now, with VMs, mainly in the +QEMU/KVM environment on host computers supporting hardware acceleration. +On these boxes Hurd runs decently fast with the correct KVM settings. +On my latest box, a 4-core, 8-thread, 3.4GHz CPU, 16GiB RAM, 128GiB SSD host it +is very fast. One can not complain on execution speeds at least in a hosted +environment. Additionally, the KVM images are very stable, you only get +into problems if you push to the limits, like memory, swap space etc. +In fact one build daemon for Debian GNU/Hurd is running under KVM and it is +one of the fastest. + +I don't use GNU/Hurd for my day-to-day business (yet), that is mainly due to +some of the above mentioned missing features. I do use it for porting packages, +mainly for the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution, partly contributing to the kernel +development (gnumach/Hurd/gcc/gdb/libc) and running package test suites for +checks of performance and POSIX compatibility. + +When some of the missing features are implemented (and remaining bugs squeezed +out) I will seriously consider using the Hurd on real hardware, as my primary +system. For now it stays in the VM environment, mainly for porting and development +purposes. Why don't you try it out too? + ### Olaf Buddenhagen, 2009-06-09 > I have been using the Hurd for most of my everyday work for some two -- cgit v1.2.3 From e7d43cc3dc8c57138d6c4923a3b1cdb8d970a349 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 00:45:30 +0200 Subject: An Incomplete GNU Hurd Timeline. Per consensus from yesterday night's IRC discussion, move this from the Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 page to the history page. Also, some light editing. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 20 ++----------- history.mdwn | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ hurd/status.mdwn | 2 +- 3 files changed, 51 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) (limited to 'hurd') diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1c20be8b..548869c5 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -49,24 +49,10 @@ Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. -We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past -decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people +We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past +decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have -contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - -**An incomplete GNU/Hurd Timeline** - -- 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. -- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), Hurd L4 starts, work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). -- 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). -- 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. -- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008]], [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. -- 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. -- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages build. -- 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. -- 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). +contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** --- diff --git a/history.mdwn b/history.mdwn index 8cde0a33..793ca04f 100644 --- a/history.mdwn +++ b/history.mdwn @@ -93,3 +93,50 @@ mailing lists. --- * [[Port_to_another_microkernel]] + +--- + +# An Incomplete GNU Hurd Timeline + + * 1997: GNU Hurd 0.2. + * 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3, Hurd L4 starts, work on + the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in + Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris + ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). + * 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag + 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). + * 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. + * 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique and + position paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel for GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], + [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. + * 2008: [[Five successful GSoC projects|community/gsoc/2008]], + [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. + * 2009: [[GSoC unionmount translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start of Device + Drivers in Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. + * 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix + port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), + [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the + Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in + LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], + Talk: [It's about + Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), + GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages + build. + * 2011: [[GNU Hurd 0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in + xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, + [[bounties|2011-05-02-foss_factory]] on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention + from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in + Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) + ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), + slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: + [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. + * 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous + testing with + Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), + improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black + tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), + switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging + report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. + * 2013: [Talk at + FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/), [[Debian + GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index e4b87923..8e6b72db 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@ GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. [[hurd/running/Nix]] provides QEMU images. That said, the last official release of the Hurd -without the Debian parts was 0.2 done in 1997. +without the Debian parts was 0.2 done in 1997 ([[history]]). New official releases will be done, as soon as the Hurd is sufficently stable and feature -- cgit v1.2.3 From b8f6fb64171e205c9d4b4a5394e6af0baaf802dc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 01:10:01 +0200 Subject: news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013: Publish. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 71 ------------------------------ history.mdwn | 2 +- hurd/status.mdwn | 2 +- news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn | 66 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 4 files changed, 68 insertions(+), 73 deletions(-) delete mode 100644 contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn create mode 100644 news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn (limited to 'hurd') diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn deleted file mode 100644 index 548869c5..00000000 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ /dev/null @@ -1,71 +0,0 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] - -[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable -id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this -document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or -any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant -Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license -is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation -License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] - - - -Note: this is a **DRAFT**. The release has not actually happened yet. Please do not broadcast yet. - -Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 *released*! -[[!if test="included()" then="""[[!toggle id=full_news -text="Details."]][[!toggleable id=full_news text="[[!paste id=full_news]]"]]""" -else=" -[[!paste id=full_news]]"]] - -[[!cut id="full_news" text=""" - -It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the -**release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013**. -This is a snapshot of Debian sid at the time of the Debian -"wheezy" release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is *not* an -official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release. - -The installation ISO images can be downloaded from -[Debian Ports](http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/hurd-i386/current/) -in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, DVD. Besides the friendly -Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try -Debian GNU/Hurd. - -Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with more -than 10.000 software packages available (more than 75% of the Debian archive, and more -to come!). - -Please make sure to read the -[configuration information](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install), -the [[FAQ]], -and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. - -Due to the very small number of developers, -our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. - -We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past -decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have -contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** - ---- - -The **GNU Hurd** is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. It is a -collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file -systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are -implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux). [[More -detailed|hurd/documentation]]. - -**GNU Mach** is the microkernel upon which a GNU Hurd system is based. It -provides an Inter Process Communication (IPC) mechanism that the Hurd uses to -define interfaces for implementing in a distributed multi-server fashion the -services a traditional operating system kernel provides. [[More -detailed|microkernel/mach/gnumach]]. - -"""]] diff --git a/history.mdwn b/history.mdwn index 793ca04f..67e56ba8 100644 --- a/history.mdwn +++ b/history.mdwn @@ -139,4 +139,4 @@ mailing lists. report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. * 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/), [[Debian - GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. + GNU/Hurd 2013|news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013]]. diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index 8e6b72db..cca8fc15 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are available. Along with the official Debian "wheezy" release (but not as an official Debian release), in May 2013 the Debian GNU/Hurd team released [[Debian -GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. +GNU/Hurd 2013|news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013]]. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. diff --git a/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn b/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..eda1ef53 --- /dev/null +++ b/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] + +[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable +id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this +document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or +any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant +Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + +[[!meta date="2013-05-21 23:20 UTC"]] + +Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 *released*! +[[!if test="included()" then="""[[!toggle id=full_news +text="Details."]][[!toggleable id=full_news text="[[!paste id=full_news]]"]]""" +else=" +[[!paste id=full_news]]"]] + +[[!cut id="full_news" text=""" + +It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the +**release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013**. +This is a snapshot of Debian "sid" at the time of the Debian +"wheezy" release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is *not* an +official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release. + +The installation ISO images can be downloaded from +[Debian Ports](http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/hurd-i386/current/) +in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, DVD. Besides the friendly +Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try +Debian GNU/Hurd. + +Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with more +than 10.000 software packages available (more than 75% of the Debian archive, and more +to come!). + +Please make sure to read the +[configuration information](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install), +the [[FAQ]], +and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. + +Due to the very small number of developers, +our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful +operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. + +We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past +decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people +today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have +contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** + +--- + +The **GNU Hurd** is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. It is a +collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file +systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are +implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux). [[More +detailed|hurd/documentation]]. + +**GNU Mach** is the microkernel upon which a GNU Hurd system is based. It +provides an Inter Process Communication (IPC) mechanism that the Hurd uses to +define interfaces for implementing in a distributed multi-server fashion the +services a traditional operating system kernel provides. [[More +detailed|microkernel/mach/gnumach]]. + +"""]] -- cgit v1.2.3