From 47e4d194dc36adfcfd2577fa4630c9fcded005d3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:15:06 +0100 Subject: IRC. --- community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn | 15 ++++++ community/gsoc/project_ideas/object_lookups.mdwn | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 78 insertions(+) (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn b/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn index a9176f51..83e97bc7 100644 --- a/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn +++ b/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn @@ -3035,3 +3035,18 @@ But not the [[open_issues/libpthread_dlopen]] issue? and we wanna prove that go violates this rule right? That the stack pointer is not pointing at the initial stack yes + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-09 + + braunr: The crash is not in the assembly code, but in the called + function from it: + pthread_sigmask (how=2, set=0xf9cac , + oset=oset@entry=0x0) at ./pthread/pt-sigmask.c:29 + 29 struct __pthread *self = _pthread_self (); + Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. + gnu_srs: ok so, same problem as in gcc go + changing the stack pointer prevents libpthread from correctly + fetching thread-specific data (including _pthread_self()) correctly + this will be fixed when threadvards are finally replaced with true + tls diff --git a/community/gsoc/project_ideas/object_lookups.mdwn b/community/gsoc/project_ideas/object_lookups.mdwn index 88ffc633..ca586dea 100644 --- a/community/gsoc/project_ideas/object_lookups.mdwn +++ b/community/gsoc/project_ideas/object_lookups.mdwn @@ -69,3 +69,66 @@ In context of [[!message-id "20130918081345.GA13789@dalaran.sceen.net"]]. braunr: That's called protected payload. braunr: The idea is that the kernel appends data to the message in flight. + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-24 + + and, with some effort, getting rid of the hash table lookup by + letting the kernel provide the address of the object (iirc neil knew the + proper term for that) + teythoon: that is a big interface change + how so + optimizing libihash and libpthread should already be a good start + well how do you intend to add this information ? + ok, "big" is overstatement, but still, it's a low level interface + change that would probably break a lot of things + store a pointer in the port structure in gnumach, make that + accessible somehow + yes but how ? + interesting question indeed + my plan for x15 is to make this "label" part of received messages + which means you need to change the format of messages + that is what i call a big change + ok, so we need to provide an update path + but once done, the change to hurd will be minimal, patching + libports should cover most of that + normally yes + so this amounts to messing with gnumach and mig and designing a + clever way to make the update process safe + + libihash is known to show high collision rates + right, libihash + it could use an integer hash function on the keys to distribute + them better + i think that's already what it tries to do + so merely using a better hash algorithm such as murmur should do + the job + or use another data structure altogether + no, it does no hashing of its own on the keys + are you sure ? + well, it uses only prime numbers as sizes, and computes key % + size + well that's hashing .. :) + but this is not really a good hash + yes + isn't that what i said ? + right + ok, I didn't get that ;) + also, the sizes start quite small, 3, 7, 19... + and each time the hash table is grown, all items will have to be + updated + which is why we could consider another data structure + or, for starters, to thin out that list of sizes + my personal preference being radix trees + I assume you have an implementation handy? + yes + cool :D + but good hashing is excellent too + radix trees have their own issues + braunr: http://burtleburtle.net/bob/hash/integer.html + i use thomas wang's hashing function in x15 + or rather, my own personal c utility library, since x15 doesn't + hash anything currently + but murmur is better + we prefer distribution over hashing performances + https://131002.net/siphash/ -- cgit v1.2.3 From fd9c2f7851da78c200ab3c651ae7bd08e286ec9c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:49:05 +0100 Subject: More media_appearances updates. --- community/meetings.mdwn | 1 + community/meetings/osdi_1994.mdwn | 26 ++++++++++++ media_appearances.mdwn | 87 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------- news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn | 3 +- news/2011-q2.mdwn | 84 +++++++++++++++++++------------------ 5 files changed, 140 insertions(+), 61 deletions(-) create mode 100644 community/meetings/osdi_1994.mdwn (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/meetings.mdwn b/community/meetings.mdwn index 0c680ddb..c20220d6 100644 --- a/community/meetings.mdwn +++ b/community/meetings.mdwn @@ -39,4 +39,5 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] * [[FOSDEM_2006]] * [[RMLL_2005]] * [[FOSDEM_2005]] + * [[OSDI_1994]] * ... diff --git a/community/meetings/osdi_1994.mdwn b/community/meetings/osdi_1994.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f0c4b33c --- /dev/null +++ b/community/meetings/osdi_1994.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013 Software Foundation, Inc."]] + +[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable +id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this +document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or +any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant +Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + +[[!meta title="First Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation +(OSDI '94)"]] + + + + * {{$bushnell_hurd}} + + +[[!ymlfront data=""" + +bushnell_hurd: + + "tutorial by Michael I. Bushnell: [*The Architecture of the GNU Hurd*](http://www.cs.utah.edu/~lepreau/osdi94/tutorials/tutorials.html#HURD) ([slides](http://www.cs.utah.edu/~lepreau/osdi94/tutorials/hurdslides.ps.gz))" + +"""]] + diff --git a/media_appearances.mdwn b/media_appearances.mdwn index e811bf4b..2f8df76c 100644 --- a/media_appearances.mdwn +++ b/media_appearances.mdwn @@ -86,10 +86,38 @@ A lot of stuff is missing here. released](http://www.osnews.com/story/27059/Debian_GNU_Hurd_2013_released)*, OS News, Thom Holwerda, 2013-05-22 +## February + + * *[GNU/Hurd Plans For A Future With USB, SATA, + 64-Bit](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5ODM)*, + Phoronix, Michael Larabel, 2013-02-10 + + +## January + + * *[GNU Hurd Is Still Moving, Albeit + Slowly](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3OTE)*, + Phoronix, Michael Larabel on 2013-01-20 + + * *[LLVM/Clang Compiler Being Ported To + GNU/Hurd](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3MjI)*, + Phoronix, Michael Larabel on 2013-01-11 + # 2012 +## December + + * *[Whatever happened to the Hurd? - The story of the GNU + OS](http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/whatever-happened-to-the-hurd-the-story-of-the-gnu-os), + Linux User, Richard Hillesley, 2012-12-23 + + Follow-up discussion: + + * + + ## April * *[People behind Debian: Samuel Thibault, working on accessibility and the @@ -97,6 +125,15 @@ A lot of stuff is missing here. Raphaël Hertzog, 2012-04-19 +## March + + * After publishing [[news/2011-q4]]: + + * *[Hurd-Quartalsbericht: Fortschritte bei der Anwendungskompatibilität + \[de\]](http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/18183/hurd-quartalsbericht-fortschritte-bei-der-anwendungskompatibilitaet.html)*, + Pro-Linux, Hans-Joachim Baader, 2012-03-22 + + # 2011 @@ -110,36 +147,34 @@ A lot of stuff is missing here. ### After Publishing [[news/2011-q2]] - * {{$news/2011-q2#lwn}} - - * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-1}} - - * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-2}} - - * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-3}} - * {{$news/2011-q2#golem}} * {{$news/2011-q2#h-online}} * {{$news/2011-q2#innocenthacker}} - * {{$news/2011-q2#netzwelt}} + * {{$news/2011-q2#lwn}} - * {{$news/2011-q2#operation-tunnelbau}} + * {{$news/2011-q2#netzwelt}} * {{$news/2011-q2#osnews}} + * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-1}} + + * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-2}} + + * {{$news/2011-q2#phoronix-3}} + * {{$news/2011-q2#pro-linux}} * {{$news/2011-q2#reddit-1}} * {{$news/2011-q2#reddit-2}} - * {{$news/2011-q2#slashdot}} - * {{$news/2011-q2#schmehl}} + * {{$news/2011-q2#slashdot}} + * ... @@ -160,17 +195,22 @@ A lot of stuff is missing here. * GNU Hackers Meeting in the Hague: {{$community/meetings/ghm2010#walfield_hurd}} - * Koen Vervloesem: [*The Hurd: GNU's quest for the perfect - kernel*](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/) + * *[The Hurd: GNU's quest for the perfect + kernel](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/)*, LWN, Koen Vervloesem Follow-up discussion: * - * Richard Hillesley: [*GNU HURD: Altered visions and lost - promise*](http://www.h-online.com/open/features/GNU-HURD-Altered-visions-and-lost-promise-1030942.html) - ([German - translation](http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/GNU-HURD-Veraenderte-Visionen-und-verworfene-Versprechen-1046753.html)) + +## June + + * *[GNU HURD: Altered visions and lost + promise](http://www.h-online.com/open/features/GNU-HURD-Altered-visions-and-lost-promise-1030942.html)*, + Richard Hillesley, 2010-06-30 (translation: *[GNU HURD: Veränderte Visionen + und verworfene Versprechen + \[de\]](http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/GNU-HURD-Veraenderte-Visionen-und-verworfene-Versprechen-1046753.html)*, + 2010-07-28) Follow-up discussion, some of it valid and constructive criticism, some of it less so: @@ -184,7 +224,16 @@ A lot of stuff is missing here. # 2004 - * Marcus Brinkmann, *The GNU Hurd - Lessons and Perspective*, from the + * *The GNU Hurd - Lessons and Perspective*, Marcus Brinkmann, from the [OpenWeekend](http://openweekend.cz/) 2004 conference organized by the Silicon Hill club. + + +# 1994 + +## November + + * [[First Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation (OSDI + '94)|community/meetings/osdi_1994]]: + {{$community/meetings/osdi_1994#bushnell_hurd}}. diff --git a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn index 28d2bbb0..f62a23ae 100644 --- a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn +++ b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011, 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -29,7 +29,6 @@ have been running all over the net: * {{$news/2011-q2#h-online}}; * {{$news/2011-q2#innocenthacker}}; * {{$news/2011-q2#netzwelt}}; - * {{$news/2011-q2#operation-tunnelbau}}; * {{$news/2011-q2#osnews}}; * {{$news/2011-q2#pro-linux}}; * {{$news/2011-q2#reddit-1}}; diff --git a/news/2011-q2.mdwn b/news/2011-q2.mdwn index f4dba68c..1c677670 100644 --- a/news/2011-q2.mdwn +++ b/news/2011-q2.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011, 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -71,83 +71,87 @@ his Java/Hurd Google Summer of Code work. golem: - "Sebastian Grüner (golem): [Debian 7 kommt offiziell mit Hurd als - Kernel \[de\]](http://www.golem.de/1107/84947.html)" + "*[Debian 7 kommt offiziell mit Hurd als Kernel + \[de\]](http://www.golem.de/1107/84947.html)*, Golem.de, Sebastian Grüner, + 2011-07-14" h-online: - "Dj Walker-Morgan (The H Open): [Hurd Progresses - Debian GNU/Hurd by end of - 2012?](http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hurd-Progresses-Debian-GNU-Hurd-by-end-of-2012-1279253.html)" + "*[Hurd Progresses - Debian GNU/Hurd by end of + 2012?](http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hurd-Progresses-Debian-GNU-Hurd-by-end-of-2012-1279253.html)*, + The H Open, Dj Walker-Morgan, 2011-07-14" innocenthacker: - "Amit Khajuria (Innocent Hacker): [Debian 7 might come in a GNU Hurd - version](http://www.innocenthacker.com/2011/07/debian-7-might-come-in-gnu-hurd-version.html)" + "*[Debian 7 might come in a GNU Hurd + version](http://www.innocenthacker.com/2011/07/debian-7-might-come-in-gnu-hurd-version.html)*, + Innocent Hacker, Amit Khajuria, 2011-07-17" lwn: - "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier (LWN): [Signs of life from GNU - Hurd](http://lwn.net/Articles/452296/)" + "*[Signs of life from GNU Hurd](http://lwn.net/Articles/452296/)*, LWN, Joe + 'Zonker' Brockmeier, 2011-07-20" netzwelt: - "Markus Franz (netzwelt) [Debian 7.0 Wheezy: Erste Pläne für Hurd statt - Linux-Kernel - \[de\]](http://www.netzwelt.de/news/87551-debian-7-0-wheezy-erste-plaene-hurd-statt-linux-kernel.html)" - -operation-tunnelbau: - - "Jens Reil: [Hurd kommt zusammen mit Duke Nukem - Forever. Fast. \[de\]](http://blog.operation-tunnelbau.de/archives/66-Hurd-kommt-zusammen-mit-Duke-Nukem-Forever.-Fast..html)" + "*[Debian 7.0 Wheezy: Erste Pläne für Hurd statt Linux-Kernel + \[de\]](http://www.netzwelt.de/news/87551-debian-7-0-wheezy-erste-plaene-hurd-statt-linux-kernel.html)*, + Netzwelt, Markus Franz, 2011-07-15" osnews: - "Thom Holwerda (OS News): [GNU Hurd Quarterly Status - Report](http://www.osnews.com/story/24942/GNU_Hurd_Quarterly_Status_Teport)" + "*[GNU Hurd Quarterly Status + Report](http://www.osnews.com/story/24942/GNU_Hurd_Quarterly_Status_Teport)*, + OS News, Thom Holwerda, 2011-07-13" phoronix-1: - "Michael Larabel (Phoronix): [A Status Update On GNU Hurd: Java, Debian, - Money](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTY2Nw)" + "*[A Status Update On GNU Hurd: Java, Debian, + Money](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTY2Nw)*, Phoronix, + Michael Larabel, 2011-07-13" phoronix-2: - "Michael Larabel (Phoronix): [Coming Up: Benchmarks Of GNU - Hurd](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTY3NQ)" + "*[Coming Up: Benchmarks Of GNU + Hurd](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTY3NQ)*, Phoronix, + Michael Larabel, 2011-07-15" phoronix-3: - "Michael Larabel (Phoronix): [Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against - Linux](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_gnu_hurd)" + "*[Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against + Linux](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_gnu_hurd)*, + Phoronix, Michael Larabel, 2011-07-18" pro-linux: - "Hans-Joachim Baader (Pro Linux): [GNU Hurd will offiziell in nächste - Debian-Version - \[de\]](http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/17261/gnu-hurd-will-offiziell-in-naechste-debian-version.html)" + "*[GNU Hurd will offiziell in nächste Debian-Version + \[de\]](http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/17261/gnu-hurd-will-offiziell-in-naechste-debian-version.html)*, + Pro-Linux, Hans-Joachim Baader, 2011-07-13" reddit-1: - "TheSilentNumber (reddit): [RMS may finally shout \"It's alive!\" at GNU+HURD - thanks to - Debian](http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/j2ztr/rms_mlayout_finally_shout_its_alive_at_gnuhurd_thanks/)" + "*[Debian now has concrete plans to bring GNU Hurd to the larger + community. It is expected to be released with the release of Debian 7.0 + Wheezy towards the end of 2012 or beginning of + 2013](http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ipxxt/debian_now_has_concrete_plans_to_bring_gnu_hurd/)*, + reddit, mepper, 2011-07-14" reddit-2: - "mepper (reddit): [Debian now has concrete plans to bring GNU Hurd to the - larger community. It is expected to be released with the release of Debian - 7.0 Wheezy towards the end of 2012 or beginning of - 2013](http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ipxxt/debian_now_has_concrete_plans_to_bring_gnu_hurd/)" + "*[RMS may finally shout \"It's alive!\" at GNU+HURD thanks to + Debian](http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/j2ztr/rms_mlayout_finally_shout_its_alive_at_gnuhurd_thanks/)*, + reddit, TheSilentNumber, 2011-07-28" schmehl: - "Alexander \"Tolimar\" Reichle-Schmehl: [About Debian, The Hurd and Linux or - in short: Yes, we will still have a Linux - kernel](http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/hurd-not-default)" + "*[About Debian, The Hurd and Linux or in short: Yes, we will still have a + Linux kernel](http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/hurd-not-default)*, Alexander + \"Tolimar\" Reichle-Schmehl, 2011-07-15" slashdot: - "timothy (Slashdot): [Watch Out Linux, GNU Hurd - Coming](http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/07/14/2141229/watch-out-linux-gnu-hurd-coming)" + "*[Watch Out Linux, GNU Hurd + Coming](http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/07/14/2141229/watch-out-linux-gnu-hurd-coming)*, + Slashdot, timothy, 2011-07-14" """]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 3a57df653b7d2386637caaed41209957b4435750 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:58:04 +0100 Subject: community/meetings/fosdem_2014: New. --- community/meetings.mdwn | 4 +++- community/meetings/fosdem_2013.mdwn | 2 +- community/meetings/fosdem_2014.mdwn | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 3 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) create mode 100644 community/meetings/fosdem_2014.mdwn (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/meetings.mdwn b/community/meetings.mdwn index c20220d6..3ede2cd1 100644 --- a/community/meetings.mdwn +++ b/community/meetings.mdwn @@ -13,16 +13,18 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] # Upcoming + * [[FOSDEM_2014]] + ## In the Future - * [[FOSDEM_2013]] * [[Self-organised]] # Past * [[GNU Hackers Meeting, 2013, Paris|ghm2013]] + * [[FOSDEM_2013]] * [[GNU Hackers Meeting, 2012, Düsseldorf|ghm2012]] * [[FOSDEM_2012]] * [[FrOSCon_2011]] diff --git a/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.mdwn b/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.mdwn index 30860cb6..0ac36838 100644 --- a/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.mdwn +++ b/community/meetings/fosdem_2013.mdwn @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -FOSDEM will take place on February 2th/3th at the Université Libre de +FOSDEM will take place on February 2nd/3rd at the Université Libre de Bruxelles. diff --git a/community/meetings/fosdem_2014.mdwn b/community/meetings/fosdem_2014.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1379968e --- /dev/null +++ b/community/meetings/fosdem_2014.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012, 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] + +[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable +id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this +document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or +any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant +Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + +[[!meta title="FOSDEM 2014"]] + + + +FOSDEM will take place on February 1st/2nd at the Université Libre de +Bruxelles. + + +# Who and When + +[[!table class="table_style_1" data=""" +"Name","Attending","Arrival","Return" +"""]] + + +# Devroom: Microkernel and component-based operating systems + +[[!message-id desc="Announcement and CfP" +"5255453A.70302@os.inf.tu-dresden.de"]]. -- cgit v1.2.3 From b29eb18fe096ee2e2a652e783fce6022eb7d6155 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:01:01 +0100 Subject: community/meetings/self-organised: Remove. This has not been pursued in years. --- community/meetings.mdwn | 5 ---- community/meetings/self-organised.mdwn | 54 ---------------------------------- 2 files changed, 59 deletions(-) delete mode 100644 community/meetings/self-organised.mdwn (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/meetings.mdwn b/community/meetings.mdwn index 3ede2cd1..1d8199ad 100644 --- a/community/meetings.mdwn +++ b/community/meetings.mdwn @@ -16,11 +16,6 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] * [[FOSDEM_2014]] -## In the Future - - * [[Self-organised]] - - # Past * [[GNU Hackers Meeting, 2013, Paris|ghm2013]] diff --git a/community/meetings/self-organised.mdwn b/community/meetings/self-organised.mdwn deleted file mode 100644 index 1403c115..00000000 --- a/community/meetings/self-organised.mdwn +++ /dev/null @@ -1,54 +0,0 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2008, 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] - -[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable -id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this -document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or -any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant -Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license -is included in the section entitled -[[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] - -[[!meta title="Self-organised meeting"]] - -This meeting will be held in a to-be-determined place, at a to-be-determined time. This page hopes to help finding a good time and place, and finding out who wants to come. - -# Who wants to come? - -Please add yourself here. - -* [[Bas_Wijnen|baswijnen]] (no preference for specific times) -* [[Thomas_Schwinge|tschwinge]] -* [[Tom_Bachmann|tombachmann]] (weekend in the middle of germany would be preferred) -* [[Gianluca_Guida|GianlucaGuida]] (wherever, whenever) -* [[Samuel_Thibault|SamuelThibault]] (wherever, whenever) - -# Who will come? - -* (to be filled in when the date is set) - -# When is a good time? - -Please add any suggestions here, and add to your name above if that time is good for you. - -# Where is a good place? - -## Somewhere in Germany - -This likely has the benefit of being relatively close to most people - - might be a suitable venue at very -reasonable pricing. - -## Somewhere in Italy - -This likely has the benefit of better weather. ;-) - -## Venice (Italy) - -This certainly has the benefit of being in an awesome place. :-) Perhaps we shouldn't care too much about that, since we're mostly busy with ourselves anyway. Or perhaps we should: beauty helps creativity (wow, I should use this as my next catch-phrase to convince a girl to stay with me: I will fail again, but with style! Gianluca). - -# What will we do? - -There will be talks with discussions: - -* Bas will give a talk about Capability-microkernel-based operating systems, with an emphasis on how this can be useful for the Hurd. The talk hopes to get people enthousiastic for the concept, and it will be tried to keep it interesting for people who are not yet familiar with the concepts. -- cgit v1.2.3 From b9873a6d794a3eac000bc4999bfe545f96c761e7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:26:27 +0100 Subject: community/gsoc: GSoC 2013 is over. --- community/gsoc.mdwn | 27 +++++++++++++++++---------- 1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/gsoc.mdwn b/community/gsoc.mdwn index 7e355ec4..e6f07822 100644 --- a/community/gsoc.mdwn +++ b/community/gsoc.mdwn @@ -11,20 +11,20 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] [[!meta title="Google Summer of Code"]] +The Google Summer of Code 2013 is over. Chances are that we will again be +participating in 2014, stay tuned. + + - This year's *student application period* is over. Thanks for sending in your applications! We're now reviewing and discussing these, so please pay attention to any questions posted on your proposal's page. The Google site's @@ -37,17 +37,24 @@ with us, be it by answering the evaluators' questions on your proposal's page, or by talking to us on the [[mailing_lists]] or on [[IRC]]. At this time, it is important for us to get a good impression about the seriousness you're showing with your application. +--> +If you intend to apply for any such projects in the future, it's a good idea to +already start perparing for it now: the sooner, the better. It is a good idea to get familiar with the GNU Hurd, by reading some of our [[documentation]], and by using a GNU/Hurd system. It is also a good idea to -send in some basic patches (this has already been mentioned in our -[[student_application_form]]), or discuss with us the principal steps you're -planning on doing in your intended work area. Of course, we don't expect you +send in some basic patches (as mentioned in our +[[student_application_form]]), and talk to us on the [[mailing_lists]] or +on [[IRC]], for example about the principal steps you're +planning on doing in your intended work area. + If you have any questions, don't be shy: please ask! Nobody expects you to know everything. Even for the long-term Hurd contributors it is common to @@ -56,16 +63,14 @@ how to do `X`, can someone please help me?* And, as we're not working next to each other in a conventional office or university setup, we'll need to establish and get used to different communication channels. -[Timeline](http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013). - @@ -75,8 +80,10 @@ We have a list of [[project_ideas]], and students are likewise encouraged to submit their own project proposals. Please follow our [[student_application_form]]. + Please read up about [[contributing]] in general, and please ask any questions you might have, on the [[mailing_lists]], or on [[IRC]], for example at one of -- cgit v1.2.3 From fc4941dfd9dc45ff9facfbee461d568f24fadb77 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:32:59 +0100 Subject: community/gsoc/2013: Copyright assignments have been processed. --- community/gsoc/2013/hacklu.mdwn | 39 ----------------------------------- community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn | 38 ---------------------------------- 2 files changed, 77 deletions(-) (limited to 'community') diff --git a/community/gsoc/2013/hacklu.mdwn b/community/gsoc/2013/hacklu.mdwn index b7de141b..d3e43dd6 100644 --- a/community/gsoc/2013/hacklu.mdwn +++ b/community/gsoc/2013/hacklu.mdwn @@ -1177,23 +1177,6 @@ In context of [[open_issues/libpthread/t/fix_have_kernel_resources]]: tschwinge: ok , this doesn't affect me now. If I have time I will figure out it. - btw, what about the copyright assignment process? - teythoon, hacklu: You still haven't heard from the FSF about - your copyright assignments? What's the latest you have heard? - tschwinge: I have wrote a emali to ask for that, but no reply. - tschwinge: last and only response I got was on July 1st, the - last ping with explicit request for confirmation was on July the 12th - hacklu: When did you send this email? - tschwinge: last week. - teythoon: I suggest you send another inquiry, and please put me - in CC. And if there'S no answer within a couple days (well, I'm away - until Monday...), I'll follow up. - hacklu: Likewise for you; depending on when exactly ;-) you - sent the last email. (Always allow for a few days until you exect an - answer, but if nothing happend within a week for such rather simple - administrative tasks, better ask again, unfrotunately.) - tschwinge:ok , I will email more - how to understand the asyn RPC? hacklu: hm ? for instance, [hurd]/proc/main.c proc_server is loop in listening @@ -1619,25 +1602,6 @@ In context of [[open_issues/libpthread/t/fix_have_kernel_resources]]: I'd rather let tschwinge comment on this youpi: ok :) - how about the copyright assignments? did hacklu or teythoon receive - any answer? - youpi: I did, the copyright clerk told me that he finally got my - papers and that everything is in order now - few! - s/f/ph - teythoon: you mean all steps are supposed to be done now, or is he - doing the last steps? I don't see your name in the copyright folder yet - youpi: well, he said that he had the papers and they are about - to be signed - teythoon: ok, so it's not finished, that's why your name is not on - the list yet - this paper stuff is really a pain - youpi: I haven't got any answer from FSF now. - did you ping them recently? - I have pinged 2 week ago. - what you mean of ping? I just write an email to him. Is it enough? - yes - # IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-08-12 @@ -1733,9 +1697,6 @@ In context of [[open_issues/libpthread/t/fix_have_kernel_resources]]: < hacklu> hello everyone, this is my week report. http://hacklu.com/blog/gsoc-weekly-report10-174/ - < hacklu> btw, my FSF copyright assignment has been concepted. They guy - said, they have recived my mail for a while but forget to handle it. - < hacklu> but now I face a new problem, when I typed the first continue command, gdb will continue all the breakpoint, and the inferior will run until normally exit. diff --git a/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn b/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn index 83e97bc7..87250c62 100644 --- a/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn +++ b/community/gsoc/2013/nlightnfotis.mdwn @@ -429,25 +429,6 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] nlightnfotis: But before doing that, please do the diff first, so that we know (hopefully) where the erroneous build results were coming from. - considering the Copyright assignment files, I have sent them - from day 1 (that is the 20th of June). I have not heard anything about - those documents to date (sadly) - what's worst is that although I have a reference number to - track those documents, their (greek postal office) tracking service sucks - so badly, that one day it's offline, the next it suggests it can't find - the object in their database, the next it says it is still in the local - post office - let me check it out now - still nothing from their online service - let me call them - tschwinge: I called the post office regarding the copyright - papers. They told me that the same day (the 20th of June) it left from - Herakleion, Crete to Athens and the same day it must have left the - country heading towards the US. They also told me it takes about 1 week - for it to arrive. - nlightnfotis: OK, so probably waiting at the FSF office to be - processed. Let's allow for some more time. After all, this is not - critical for your progress. # IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-07-10 @@ -826,25 +807,6 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] worker threads are actually never destroyed on debian (because of a debian specific patch) - youpi, nlightnfotis, hacklu_: btw, what about the copyright - assignment process - nlightnfotis just got his on file, so there is progress. - I have email from Donald R Robertson III - about that -- but it is not yet present in the - FSF copyright.list file... - I think I received that email because I was CCed on - nlightnfotis' submission. - tschwinge: I have got the papers, and they were signed by - the FSF. They stated delivery date 11 of July, but the documents were - signed on the 10th of July :P - Ah, no, I received it via hurd-maintainers@gnu.org -- and the - strange thing is that not all assignments that got processed got sent - there... - At the recent GNU Tools Cauldron we also discussed this in the - GCC context; and their experience was the very same. Emails get lost, - and/or take ages to be processed, etc. - It seems the FSF is undermanned. - # IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-07-27 -- cgit v1.2.3