From 39d31f26c7f529fce226af3785ba855834682d23 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:23:41 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 7 +++++-- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index f86d4bfd..2b22c07f 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -15,13 +15,16 @@ These times, my goal is to install it on my laptop (maybe with crosshurd or with Also, I'm currently working on a comics'The Call Of The Hurd'. It's free licensed cc-by-sa/Copyleft Art Libre. 1st page will be done before the end of the year I think (I look for good quality). -And it's nice to be here :) - Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) Hope it will pleased for you. Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) +The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... +It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... + + + -- cgit v1.2.3 From da8698ff9416d1697e91282878cf842c56f9e983 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:55:32 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 8 ++++---- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 2b22c07f..4fbed710 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -9,18 +9,18 @@ is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -I just try to become an end user of The Hurd. In 2004, I was able to install K9 on an old computer. +October 3, 2010 - I just try to become an end user of The Hurd. In 2004, I was able to install K9 on an old computer. These times, my goal is to install it on my laptop (maybe with crosshurd or with a lzma image for virtualbox, or any other way...) Also, I'm currently working on a comics'The Call Of The Hurd'. It's free licensed cc-by-sa/Copyleft Art Libre. 1st page will be done before the end of the year I think (I look for good quality). -Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) +October 13, 2010 - Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) Hope it will pleased for you. -Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) +October 14, 2010 - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) -The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... +January 11, 2010 - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... -- cgit v1.2.3 From 7d0709bd3cd38caafd439696bf7639dddbeae33d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:18:35 +0100 Subject: mailing_lists/libc-alpha: New. --- mailing_lists.mdwn | 35 ++++++++++++++++-------- mailing_lists/libc-alpha.mdwn | 11 ++++++++ open_issues/secure_file_descriptor_handling.mdwn | 5 ++-- 3 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-) create mode 100644 mailing_lists/libc-alpha.mdwn diff --git a/mailing_lists.mdwn b/mailing_lists.mdwn index e4bd1368..f89a6e72 100644 --- a/mailing_lists.mdwn +++ b/mailing_lists.mdwn @@ -1,13 +1,14 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 -Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, +2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license -is included in the section entitled -[[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + # On Posting @@ -30,21 +31,20 @@ Also see these general notes about [[community/communication]]. # Main Lists -The lists are [[unmoderated]] and most of them are hosted on -. Try to post to the appropriate mailing list. +Most of these lists are [[unmoderated]], and most of them are hosted on +. Some of the Hurd user groups listed on [[community]] also host additional mailing lists. - - ## bug-hurd -Technical discussion and bug reports; main development list. If you want to **contribute**, please meet us here. +Technical discussion and bug reports; main development list. If you want to +[[*contribute*|contributing]], please meet us here. ## hurd-devel @@ -59,8 +59,8 @@ Subscribe to [[hurd-devel-readers]] instead. -This list is a read-only mirror of [[hurd-devel]]. In contrast to subscribing -to the latter, everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. +This list is a read-only mirror of [[hurd-devel]]. In contrast to the former, +everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. ## help-hurd @@ -68,7 +68,8 @@ to the latter, everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. -Hurd-specific questions; for users of the Hurd. If you need help on **using the Hurd** please ask in this list. +Hurd-specific questions, for users of the Hurd. If you need help with [[*using +the Hurd*|hurd/running]], please ask on this list. ## web-hurd @@ -103,6 +104,16 @@ Discussion around and questions regarding the Discussion about the [[GNU_system|hurd/running/gnu]]. + +## libc-alpha + + + + +Discussion about [[glibc]], where the Hurd's POSIX et al. interfaces are +implemented, amongst a lot of other bits and pieces. This list is *moderated*, +but on-topic development topics will generally be accepted. + # Spam diff --git a/mailing_lists/libc-alpha.mdwn b/mailing_lists/libc-alpha.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2f997922 --- /dev/null +++ b/mailing_lists/libc-alpha.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] + +[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable +id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this +document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or +any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant +Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + +[[!meta redir=mailing_lists#libc-alpha]] diff --git a/open_issues/secure_file_descriptor_handling.mdwn b/open_issues/secure_file_descriptor_handling.mdwn index 1a514e69..45e983a7 100644 --- a/open_issues/secure_file_descriptor_handling.mdwn +++ b/open_issues/secure_file_descriptor_handling.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010, 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -12,7 +12,8 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] `O_CLOEXEC`, `dup3` et al.; see . [[tschwinge]] once worked -on this, posted patches to libc-alpha. This works needs to be resumed +on this, posted patches to [[mailing_lists/libc-alpha]]. This works needs to +be resumed and finished. --- -- cgit v1.2.3 From 567bbad4a901026a3f8c899376c1501d4f6bafa8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:28:44 +0100 Subject: open_issues/binutils_gold: Update. IRC, #hurd, 2011-01-12. A few inline comments. --- open_issues/binutils_gold.mdwn | 176 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 175 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/open_issues/binutils_gold.mdwn b/open_issues/binutils_gold.mdwn index f9008154..aa6843a3 100644 --- a/open_issues/binutils_gold.mdwn +++ b/open_issues/binutils_gold.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010, 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -11,3 +11,177 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] [[!tag open_issue_binutils]] Have a look at GOLD / port as needed. + + +# teythoon's try / `mremap` issue + +IRC, #hurd, 2011-01-12 + + I've been looking into building gold on hurd and it built fine + with one minor tweak + and it's working fine according to its test suite + the only problem is that the build system is failing to detect + the hurdish mremap which lives in libmemusage + on linux it is in the libc so the check succeeds + any hints on how to fix this properly? + hm... it's strange that it's a different library on the Hurd + are the implementations compatible? + antrik: it seems so, though the declarations differ slightly + I guess the best thing is to ask on the appropriate list(s) why + they are different... + teythoon@ganymede:~/build/gold/binutils-2.21/gold$ grep -A1 + mremap /usr/include/sys/mman.h + extern void *mremap (void *__addr, size_t __old_len, size_t + __new_len, int __flags, ...) __THROW; + vs + of course it would be possible to modify the configure script to + check for the Hurd variant too; but first we should establish whether + here is actually any reason for being different, or it's just some + historical artefact that should be fixed... + teythoon@ganymede:~/build/gold/binutils-2.21/gold$ fgrep 'extern + void *mremap' mremap.c + extern void *mremap (void *, size_t, size_t, int, ...); + the problem is that the test fails to link due to the fact that + mremap isn't in the libc on hurd + yeah, it would be possible for the configure script to check + whether it works when the hurdish extra library is added explicitely + but again, I don't see any good reason for being different here in + the first place... + so should I create a patch to move mremap? + if it's not too complicated, that would be nice... it's always + easier to discuss when you already have code :-) + OTOH, asking first might spare you some useless work if it turns + out there *is* some reason for being different after all... + so where is the right place to discuss this? + bug-hurd mailing list and/or glibc mailing list. not sure which + one is better -- I guess it doesn't hurt to crosspost... + +[[mailing_lists/libc-alpha]] is the correct list, and cross-posting to +[[mailing_lists/bug-hurd]] would be fine, too. + + antrik: some further digging revealed that mremap belongs to + /lib/libmemusage.so on both hurd and linux + the only difference is that on linux there is a weak reference + to that function in /lib/libc-2.11.2.so + $ objdump -T /lib/libc-2.11.2.so | fgrep mremap + 00000000000cf7e0 w DF .text 0000000000000028 GLIBC_2.2.5 + mremap + ah, it's probably simply a bug that we don't have this weak + reference too + IIRC we had similar bugs before + teythoon: can you provide a patch for that? + antrik: unfortunately I have no idea how that weak ref ended up + there + + teythoon: also the libmemusage.s seems to be just a debugging + library to be used by LD_PRELOAD or similar + which override those memory functions + the libc should provide actual code for those functions, even if + the symbol is declared weak (so overridable) + teythoon: are you sure that's the actual problem? can you paste + somewhere the build logs with the error? + guillem: sure + http://paste.debian.net/104437/ + that's the part of config.log that shows the detection (or the + failure to detect it) of mremap + this results in HAVE_MREMAP not being defined + as a consequence it is declared in gold.h and this declaration + conflicts with the one from sys/mman.h http://paste.debian.net/104438/ + on linux the test for mremap succeeds + teythoon: hmm oh I guess it's just what that, mremap is linux + specific so it's not available on the hurd + teythoon: I just checked glibc and seems to confirm that + CONFORMING TO This call is Linux-specific, and should not be used + in programs intended to be portable. + ah okay + so I guess we shouldn't ship an header with that declaration... + teythoon: yeah :/ good luck telling that to drepper :) + teythoon: I guess he'll suggest that everyone else needs to get + our own copy of sys/mman.h + s/our/their/ + hm, so how should I proceed? + what's your goal ? + detecting mremap ? + making binutils/gold compile ootb on hurd + I picked it from the open issues page ;) + well, if there is no mremap, you need a replacement + gold has a replacement + ok + so your problem is fixing the detection of mremap right ? + yes + ok, that's a build system question then :/ + you need to ask an autotools guy + well, actually the build system correctly detects the absence of + mremap + (gold does use the autotools right ?) + yes + oh, i'm lost now (i admit i didn't read the whole issue :/) + it is just that the declaration in sys/mman.h conflicts with + their own declaration + ah + so in the absence of mremap, they use their own builtin function + yes + and according to the test suite it is working perfectly + gold that is + the declaration in mman.h has an extra __THROW + a workaround would be to rename gold's mremap to something else, + gold_mremap for example + that's really the kind of annoying issue + you either have to change glibc, or gold + yeah + you'll face difficulty changing glibc, as guillem told you + the correct solution though IMO is to fix glibc + but this may be true for gold too + guillem: i agree + maybe it would be easiest actually to implement mremap()?... + but as this is something quite linux specific, it makes sense to + use another internal name, and wrap that to the linux mremap if it's + detected + antrik: i'm nto sure + braunr: I don't think using such workarounds is a good + idea. clearly there would be no issue if the header file wouldn't be + incorrect on Hurd + antrik: that's why i said i agree with guillem when he says "the + correct solution though IMO is to fix glibc" + what exactly is the problem with getting a patch into glibc? + the people involved + teythoon: and touching a generic header file + but feel free to try, you could be lucky + but glibc is not an linux specific piece of software, right? + teythoon: no, it's not + erm... + teythoon: but in practice, it is + supposedly not :) + braunr: BTW, by "easiest" I don't mean coding alone, but + coding+pushing upstream :-) + so the problem is, misc/sys/mman.h should be a generic header and + as such not include linux specific parts, which are not present on hurd, + kfreebsd, etc etc + antrik: yes, that's why guillem and i suggested the workaround + thing in gold + that also requires pushing upstream. and quite frankly, if I were + the gold maintainer, I wouldn't accept it. + but the easiest (and wrong) solution in glibc to avoid maintainer + conflict will probably be copying that file under hurd's glibc tree and + install that instead + antrik: implementing mremap could be relatively easy to do + actually + antrik: IIRC, vm_map() supports overlapping + well, actually the easiest solution would be to create a patch + that never goes upstream but is included in Debian, like many + others... but that's obviously not a good long-term plan + braunr: yes, I think so too + braunr: haven't checked, but I have a vague recollection that the + fundamentals are pretty much there + teythoon: so, apart from an ugly workaround in gold, there are + essentially three options: 1. implement mremap; 2. make parts of mman.h + conditional; 3. use our own copy of mman.h + 1. would be ideal, but might be non-trivial; 2. would might be + tricky to get right, and even more tricky to get upstream; 3. would be + simple, but a maintenance burden in the long term + looking at golds replacement code (mmap & memcpy) 1 sounds like + the best option performance wise + +[[!taglink open_issue_glibc]]: check if it is possible to implement `mremap`. +[[I|tschwinge]] remember some discussion about this, but have not yet worked on +locating it. [[Talk to me|tschwinge]] if you'd like to have a look at this. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 3459cc0684ed0db666ce7d4489695219ac4f8425 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:42:13 +0100 Subject: hurd/faq/which_microkernel: IRC, #hurd, 2011-01-12. --- hurd/faq/which_microkernel.mdwn | 66 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 64 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.mdwn b/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.mdwn index 10fd31b1..c5026afa 100644 --- a/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.mdwn +++ b/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009, 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -[[!meta title="What happened to the L4/Coyotos/viengoos micro-kernels?"]] +[[!meta title="What happened to the L4 / Coyotos / Viengoos microkernels?"]] L4 was promising but happened to not be suitable for implementing a general-purpose operating system on top of it. See [[history/port_to_l4]] for the historical details. @@ -17,3 +17,65 @@ Coyotos is abandoned upstream Neal Walfield started working on a newly designed kernel called [[viengoos|microkernel/viengoos]]. Unfortunately, he currently lacks time and the projects it paused. In the meanwhile, people are thus continuing with [[microkernel/mach]]. + +--- + +IRC, #hurd, 2011-01-12. + +[[!taglink open_issue_documentation]] + + Hello i am just curious of the development of Hurd - what's the + current mission on the microkernel i see projects like l4 and viengoos, + will one of these projects replace Mach? or will you stick with Mach + as i understand is that Mach is a first generation microkernel + that's very old in design and causes alot of issues + that's where l4 and viengoos comes in - they are trying to be the + next generation Mach - am i correct? + l4 is not a drop in replacement for Mach + it doesn't actually do much resource management + for instance, you still have to implement a memory manager + this is where several issues are with Mach + l4 doesn't address those issues; it punts to the operating system + and what about viengoos? + it's unfinished + and it implemented some untested ideas + i.e., parts of viengoos were research + there has not been a sufficient evaluation of those ideas to + determine whether they are a good approach + meaning that viengoos is a research kernel that could aid Mach? + I'm not sure I understand your question + Well is viengoos trying to be a replacement for Mach, or will + viengoos be an experiment of new ideas that could be implemented in Mach? + i am sorry for my limited english + viengoos was designed with a Hurd-like user-land in mind + in that sense it was a Mach replacement + (unlike L4) + viengoos consisted of a few experiments + one could implement them in mach + but it would require exposing new interfaces + in which case, I'm not sure you could call the result Mach + Well as i understand you develop two microkernels side by side, + wouldnt it be more effective to investigate viengoos more and maybe move + the focus to viengoos? + no + having something working all the time is crucial + it's very hard to motivate people to work on a project that might + be useful, in a couple of years, perhaps... + Well Mach is meant to be replaced one day - i see no reason to + keep on developing it just because it works at this moment + *if Mach is meant to be replaced + it's not at all clear that it will be replaced by something + completely different. I for my part believe that modifying the existing + Mach is a more promising approach + as i understand man power is something you need - and by spreading + out the developers just makes the progress more slow + but even if it *were* to be replaced one day, it doesn't change + the fact that we need it *now* + all software will be obsolete one day. doesn't mean it's not worth + working on + the vast majority of work is not on the microkernel anyways, but + on the system running on top of it + ahh i see + manpower is not something that comes from nowhere. again, having + something working is crucial in a volunteer project like this + there are no fixed plans -- cgit v1.2.3 From dc62e7d69d23ad7fc385de0afe2917b5fa10a1d3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:01:33 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 13 ++++++++----- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 4fbed710..e8a969ae 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -8,6 +8,13 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] +**January 11, 2010** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... +It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for the lzma machine. + +**October 14, 2010** - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) + +**October 13, 2010** - Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) +Hope it will pleased for you. October 3, 2010 - I just try to become an end user of The Hurd. In 2004, I was able to install K9 on an old computer. These times, my goal is to install it on my laptop (maybe with crosshurd or with a lzma image for virtualbox, or any other way...) @@ -15,13 +22,9 @@ These times, my goal is to install it on my laptop (maybe with crosshurd or with Also, I'm currently working on a comics'The Call Of The Hurd'. It's free licensed cc-by-sa/Copyleft Art Libre. 1st page will be done before the end of the year I think (I look for good quality). -October 13, 2010 - Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) -Hope it will pleased for you. -October 14, 2010 - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) -January 11, 2010 - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... -It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... + -- cgit v1.2.3 From e597323e7b29524c916eea7f51282aeaef752f91 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:14:08 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index e8a969ae..4393230d 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -9,14 +9,14 @@ is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] **January 11, 2010** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... -It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for the lzma machine. +It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for [the *Hurd.vdi* machine.](http://www.paranoiaque.fr/Hurd.vdi.tar.lzma) **October 14, 2010** - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) **October 13, 2010** - Page 1 out ! The beginning of the [the comics is here :](http://eldreammachine.free.fr/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01.jpg) Hope it will pleased for you. -October 3, 2010 - I just try to become an end user of The Hurd. In 2004, I was able to install K9 on an old computer. +**October 3, 2010** - I just try to become an end user of The Hurd. In 2004, I was able to install K9 on an old computer. These times, my goal is to install it on my laptop (maybe with crosshurd or with a lzma image for virtualbox, or any other way...) Also, I'm currently working on a comics'The Call Of The Hurd'. It's free licensed cc-by-sa/Copyleft Art Libre. -- cgit v1.2.3 From cdb265d02e657af41692b3f6a3e054fe031c7459 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:34:26 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 1 + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 4393230d..c41bddd3 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] **January 11, 2010** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for [the *Hurd.vdi* machine.](http://www.paranoiaque.fr/Hurd.vdi.tar.lzma) +[A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma)of this install) **October 14, 2010** - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) -- cgit v1.2.3 From 263204380b097a460ddc54094478e4fd5064c0f1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:38:38 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index c41bddd3..9f61ff6d 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -10,7 +10,8 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] **January 11, 2010** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for [the *Hurd.vdi* machine.](http://www.paranoiaque.fr/Hurd.vdi.tar.lzma) -[A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma)of this install) + +[A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma) of this install. **October 14, 2010** - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) -- cgit v1.2.3 From 4807c485301df2094e45d6db439d5f84b568fa8f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:29:15 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 4 +++- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 9f61ff6d..fabf1e42 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -8,7 +8,9 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -**January 11, 2010** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... +**January 13, 2011** - My story comics on the Hurd continues. I think I can introduce you to page 2 in a month. + +**January 11, 2011** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for [the *Hurd.vdi* machine.](http://www.paranoiaque.fr/Hurd.vdi.tar.lzma) [A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma) of this install. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 23dbae0cfc40c6cc3562d6c4b9be094d2b349153 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:30:20 +0100 Subject: open_issues/unit_testing: LaBrea. --- open_issues/unit_testing.mdwn | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/open_issues/unit_testing.mdwn b/open_issues/unit_testing.mdwn index 1cf7cfb8..d7821fd3 100644 --- a/open_issues/unit_testing.mdwn +++ b/open_issues/unit_testing.mdwn @@ -66,3 +66,7 @@ abandoned). testing, too? * + + * [LaBrea](https://github.com/dustin/labrea/wiki), or similar tools can be + used for modelling certain aspects of system behavior (long response times, + for example). -- cgit v1.2.3 From 17aae6fbffdb4119f042b178f397d653ec1b4875 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:06:22 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index fabf1e42..1480421b 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -8,6 +8,8 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] +**January 17, 2011** - A video capture [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgl3nr_hurd-screenscat-ffmpeg-01_webcam) [Hurd operating], introducing Les Bernardo,Gonzolero, Midori... + **January 13, 2011** - My story comics on the Hurd continues. I think I can introduce you to page 2 in a month. **January 11, 2011** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... -- cgit v1.2.3 From 0b28c113c676df5fdc99767524066b43bd8ada13 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:17:21 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 1480421b..4fa8d13d 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] **January 11, 2011** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... It happened on january,7 2011, a very nice day... Thanks to [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.paranoiaque.fr) for [the *Hurd.vdi* machine.](http://www.paranoiaque.fr/Hurd.vdi.tar.lzma) -[A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma) of this install. +[A testimony](http://www.sites.google.com/site/hurdexperiences/en-hurd-vdi-tar-lzma) of this install and a video capture [Hurd operating.](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgl3nr_hurd-screenscat-ffmpeg-01_webcam) **October 14, 2010** - Here's the [french version.](http://art9libre.tuxfamily.org/gaetan/TheCallOfTheHurd-01-fr-png.jpg) -- cgit v1.2.3 From 926255426a77196d3a07c044543345f4a425d1ed Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://eldreammachine.myopenid.com/" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:20:39 +0000 Subject: --- user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn | 2 -- 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn index 4fa8d13d..ac3a0cfc 100644 --- a/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn +++ b/user/El_Dream_Machine.mdwn @@ -8,8 +8,6 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -**January 17, 2011** - A video capture [http://www.paranoiaque.fr](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgl3nr_hurd-screenscat-ffmpeg-01_webcam) [Hurd operating], introducing Les Bernardo,Gonzolero, Midori... - **January 13, 2011** - My story comics on the Hurd continues. I think I can introduce you to page 2 in a month. **January 11, 2011** - The goal was to install the Hurd in VirtualBox... -- cgit v1.2.3