From 1670e3aab1d3df481f2c233a177e95ca704a7dd4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:33:39 +0200 Subject: 2013: remove mention of L4 and Viengoos: Only historic interest. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 11 +++++------ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 51b6c2ab..42121923 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ for a start. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached a very good -state, even with the limited resources. +state, even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people @@ -59,13 +59,12 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** **A GNU/Hurd Timeline** - 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. -- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), Hurd L4 starts, work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). +- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). -- 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. -- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]], [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. +- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. -- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages build. +- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. - 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), pthreads work, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. - 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). -- cgit v1.2.3 From fdad5acb62bf19cade02b25b0be4ceb1dc44ed3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:37:09 +0200 Subject: explain what the translator primer is for --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 42121923..46e7ec58 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ Please make sure to read the [[configuration information|http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install]], the [[FAQ|faq]], and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -for a start. +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -- cgit v1.2.3 From 0308682db5dd876ee13e746876eb22ba29807831 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:40:41 +0200 Subject: Better link for gsoc success --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 46e7ec58..cff8aad5 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). - 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008/]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- cgit v1.2.3 From baf94f90d89123bb00e010d8e497da873e1615d1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:41:17 +0200 Subject: 2013: link to the status page --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 3 +-- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 42121923..20fb8ef1 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,8 +48,7 @@ for a start. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached a very good -state, even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From 877857a978cefa311826f767e6859b01a55ca970 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:42:44 +0200 Subject: merge --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 20fb8ef1..d975f330 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ Please make sure to read the [[configuration information|http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install]], the [[FAQ|faq]], and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -for a start. +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). - 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008/]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- cgit v1.2.3 From ef8cfbce7dea92c45cfce284067c1c4af92ae8fa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:45:07 +0200 Subject: 2013: pthreads work → switch to pthreads finished. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index d975f330..1ee5392d 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), pthreads work, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. +- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. - 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). --- -- cgit v1.2.3 From 6f257fb060ba2a05210a525e0a6f4f413b3452df Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:15:13 +0200 Subject: fix link --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1ee5392d..980a50c2 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|status]], even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From a4e67c7eca262666343bdc85767376d2827ab5eb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:20:32 +0200 Subject: 2013: incomplete timeline --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1ee5392d..893b4aef 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** -**A GNU/Hurd Timeline** +**An incomplete GNU/Hurd Timeline** - 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). -- cgit v1.2.3 From 1fe96858be907d24912ccc3730a1246e6f410d16 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:36 +0200 Subject: Mention Debian Hurd release --- hurd/status.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index ce9e01dd..bb8a1243 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ align="right" [[Debian GNU/Hurd|running/debian]] closely tracks the progress of the Hurd (and often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are -available. The most recent version of the Debian GNU/Hurd port at the time of -writing was published on 2013 January 5th. Debian Wheezy will unfortunately not officially release officially the Hurd port, an unofficial release will however be available. +available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made +on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 7e3237ca9ee7be8c1ba6dec485ab365909985599 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:26:56 +0200 Subject: s/good/decent/ --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 766df6d6..ea719a6b 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_decent_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From 8d7ba1c0bd6402af6917caa1825d247715f92741 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmjRGuNcPKr2jQhph5RAhn6scPXIaO4VUk" Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:48:44 +0200 Subject: --- hurd/status.mdwn | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---- 1 file changed, 28 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index bb8a1243..bc9beda1 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -28,12 +28,13 @@ several instances of the Hurd in parallel, and debug even critical servers in one Hurd instance with gdb running on another Hurd instance. You can run the X window system, applications that use it such as gnumeric, iceweasel, and advanced server applications like the Apache webserver. +GNU/Linux network driver supports was included some time ago via the DDE environment, +and experimental support for SATA devices was very recently added. -On the negative side, the support for character devices (like sound +On the features side, support for character devices (like sound cards) and other hardware (USB, multicore) is mostly missing. Although the [[POSIX interface|faq/posix_compatibility]] is provided, some additional interfaces -like POSIX shared -memory or semaphores are still under development. +like POSIX shared memory or semaphores are still under development. All this applies to the current development version, and not to the last release (0.2). We encourage everybody who is interested to try @@ -53,7 +54,7 @@ align="right" often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made -on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. +in May 2013 along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. @@ -73,6 +74,29 @@ possibility that they would want to try the Hurd again in the future. ## Usability Reports +### Svante Signell, 2013-05-21 + +I have been running GNU/Hurd for some years now, with VMs, mainly in the +QEMU/KVM environment on host computers supporting hardware acceleration. +On these boxes Hurd runs decently fast with the correct KVM settings. +On my latest box, a 4-core, 8-thread, 3.4GHz CPU, 16GiB RAM, 128GiB SSD host it +is very fast. One can not complain on execution speeds at least in a hosted +environment. Additionally, the KVM images are very stable, you only get +into problems if you push to the limits, like memory, swap space etc. +In fact one build daemon for Debian GNU/Hurd is running under KVM and it is +one of the fastest. + +I don't use GNU/Hurd for my day-to-day business (yet), that is mainly due to +some of the above mentioned missing features. I do use it for porting packages, +mainly for the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution, partly contributing to the kernel +development (gnumach/Hurd/gcc/gdb/libc) and running package test suites for +checks of performance and POSIX compatibility. + +When some of the missing features are implemented (and remaining bugs squeezed +out) I will seriously consider using the Hurd on real hardware, as my primary +system. For now it stays in the VM environment, mainly for porting and development +purposes. Why don't you try it out too? + ### Olaf Buddenhagen, 2009-06-09 > I have been using the Hurd for most of my everyday work for some two -- cgit v1.2.3