From 79bede542f5138fac9a38d0c6b23af37af19e2f0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm-Xq-lkj9CJZu31fqMOcKoGTS_zXlc8nY" Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 17:19:08 +0200 Subject: reorganization. Placeholder for gnumach kernel mailing list. Why not replace existing L4 mailing list? --- mailing_lists.mdwn | 62 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------ 1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-) diff --git a/mailing_lists.mdwn b/mailing_lists.mdwn index 0f90d200..5318c717 100644 --- a/mailing_lists.mdwn +++ b/mailing_lists.mdwn @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@ Posting_style#Interleaved_style]]. Also see these general notes about [[community/communication]]. +--- # Main Lists @@ -37,8 +38,12 @@ Most of these lists are [[unmoderated]], and most of them are hosted on Some of the Hurd user groups listed on [[community]] also host additional mailing lists. +## The Hurd + +###Development + -## bug-hurd +#### bug-hurd @@ -47,14 +52,14 @@ Technical discussion and bug reports; main development list. If you want to [[*contribute*|contributing]], please meet us here. -## commit-hurd +#### commit-hurd Commit notices for the GNU Hurd, and other automated status updates. -## hurd-devel +#### hurd-devel @@ -62,7 +67,7 @@ Low-traffic developers list. This list is *moderated* and *restricted*. Subscribe to [[hurd-devel-readers]] instead. -### hurd-devel-readers +#### hurd-devel-readers @@ -70,7 +75,10 @@ This list is a read-only mirror of [[hurd-devel]]. In contrast to the former, everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. -## help-hurd + +### User support + +#### help-hurd @@ -78,41 +86,52 @@ everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. Hurd-specific questions, for users of the Hurd. If you need help with [[*using the Hurd*|hurd/running]], please ask on this list. - -## web-hurd + +#### debian-hurd - - + + -Discussion of the web site. +Discussion around and questions regarding the +[[Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] distribution. + +## Kernel + +### Gnumach -## l4-hurd +### l4-hurd Discussion regarding a possible [[design_successor|hurd/ng]] to the Hurd. - -## debian-hurd - - - - -Discussion around and questions regarding the -[[Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] distribution. +## GNU system -## gnu-system-discuss +### gnu-system-discuss Discussion about the [[GNU_system|hurd/running/gnu]]. +## Website + + + +## web-hurd + + + + +Discussion of the web site. + +## Libc + -## libc-alpha +### libc-alpha @@ -131,6 +150,7 @@ you're interested in getting hold of (mostly) spam-free mboxes, then talk to [[Thomas_Schwinge|tschwinge]]. Also [[read_about|unmoderated]] the spam-rejection techniques being used today. +--- # Related -- cgit v1.2.3 From 1670e3aab1d3df481f2c233a177e95ca704a7dd4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:33:39 +0200 Subject: 2013: remove mention of L4 and Viengoos: Only historic interest. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 11 +++++------ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 51b6c2ab..42121923 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ for a start. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached a very good -state, even with the limited resources. +state, even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people @@ -59,13 +59,12 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** **A GNU/Hurd Timeline** - 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. -- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), Hurd L4 starts, work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). +- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). -- 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. -- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]], [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. +- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. -- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages build. +- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. - 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), pthreads work, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. - 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). -- cgit v1.2.3 From fdad5acb62bf19cade02b25b0be4ceb1dc44ed3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:37:09 +0200 Subject: explain what the translator primer is for --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 42121923..46e7ec58 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ Please make sure to read the [[configuration information|http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install]], the [[FAQ|faq]], and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -for a start. +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -- cgit v1.2.3 From 0308682db5dd876ee13e746876eb22ba29807831 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:40:41 +0200 Subject: Better link for gsoc success --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 46e7ec58..cff8aad5 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). - 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008/]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- cgit v1.2.3 From baf94f90d89123bb00e010d8e497da873e1615d1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:41:17 +0200 Subject: 2013: link to the status page --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 3 +-- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 42121923..20fb8ef1 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,8 +48,7 @@ for a start. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached a very good -state, even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From 877857a978cefa311826f767e6859b01a55ca970 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:42:44 +0200 Subject: merge --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 20fb8ef1..d975f330 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ Please make sure to read the [[configuration information|http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install]], the [[FAQ|faq]], and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -for a start. +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). - 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|news/2008-09-11]]. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008/]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- cgit v1.2.3 From ef8cfbce7dea92c45cfce284067c1c4af92ae8fa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:45:07 +0200 Subject: 2013: pthreads work → switch to pthreads finished. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index d975f330..1ee5392d 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. - 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), pthreads work, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. +- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. - 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). --- -- cgit v1.2.3 From 6f257fb060ba2a05210a525e0a6f4f413b3452df Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:15:13 +0200 Subject: fix link --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1ee5392d..980a50c2 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|status]], even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From a4e67c7eca262666343bdc85767376d2827ab5eb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arne Babenhauserheide Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:20:32 +0200 Subject: 2013: incomplete timeline --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1ee5392d..893b4aef 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** -**A GNU/Hurd Timeline** +**An incomplete GNU/Hurd Timeline** - 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. - 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). -- cgit v1.2.3 From 1fe96858be907d24912ccc3730a1246e6f410d16 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:36 +0200 Subject: Mention Debian Hurd release --- hurd/status.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index ce9e01dd..bb8a1243 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ align="right" [[Debian GNU/Hurd|running/debian]] closely tracks the progress of the Hurd (and often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are -available. The most recent version of the Debian GNU/Hurd port at the time of -writing was published on 2013 January 5th. Debian Wheezy will unfortunately not officially release officially the Hurd port, an unofficial release will however be available. +available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made +on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 7e3237ca9ee7be8c1ba6dec485ab365909985599 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:26:56 +0200 Subject: s/good/decent/ --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 766df6d6..ea719a6b 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_good_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. +Operating Systems, but we believe to have reached [[a_very_decent_state|hurd/status]], even with the limited resources. We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -- cgit v1.2.3 From 8d7ba1c0bd6402af6917caa1825d247715f92741 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmjRGuNcPKr2jQhph5RAhn6scPXIaO4VUk" Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:48:44 +0200 Subject: --- hurd/status.mdwn | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---- 1 file changed, 28 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index bb8a1243..bc9beda1 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -28,12 +28,13 @@ several instances of the Hurd in parallel, and debug even critical servers in one Hurd instance with gdb running on another Hurd instance. You can run the X window system, applications that use it such as gnumeric, iceweasel, and advanced server applications like the Apache webserver. +GNU/Linux network driver supports was included some time ago via the DDE environment, +and experimental support for SATA devices was very recently added. -On the negative side, the support for character devices (like sound +On the features side, support for character devices (like sound cards) and other hardware (USB, multicore) is mostly missing. Although the [[POSIX interface|faq/posix_compatibility]] is provided, some additional interfaces -like POSIX shared -memory or semaphores are still under development. +like POSIX shared memory or semaphores are still under development. All this applies to the current development version, and not to the last release (0.2). We encourage everybody who is interested to try @@ -53,7 +54,7 @@ align="right" often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are available. An Debian-unofficial but Debian GNU/Hurd -official release was made -on 2013 May along the official Debian wheezy release. +in May 2013 along the official Debian wheezy release. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. @@ -73,6 +74,29 @@ possibility that they would want to try the Hurd again in the future. ## Usability Reports +### Svante Signell, 2013-05-21 + +I have been running GNU/Hurd for some years now, with VMs, mainly in the +QEMU/KVM environment on host computers supporting hardware acceleration. +On these boxes Hurd runs decently fast with the correct KVM settings. +On my latest box, a 4-core, 8-thread, 3.4GHz CPU, 16GiB RAM, 128GiB SSD host it +is very fast. One can not complain on execution speeds at least in a hosted +environment. Additionally, the KVM images are very stable, you only get +into problems if you push to the limits, like memory, swap space etc. +In fact one build daemon for Debian GNU/Hurd is running under KVM and it is +one of the fastest. + +I don't use GNU/Hurd for my day-to-day business (yet), that is mainly due to +some of the above mentioned missing features. I do use it for porting packages, +mainly for the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution, partly contributing to the kernel +development (gnumach/Hurd/gcc/gdb/libc) and running package test suites for +checks of performance and POSIX compatibility. + +When some of the missing features are implemented (and remaining bugs squeezed +out) I will seriously consider using the Hurd on real hardware, as my primary +system. For now it stays in the VM environment, mainly for porting and development +purposes. Why don't you try it out too? + ### Olaf Buddenhagen, 2009-06-09 > I have been using the Hurd for most of my everyday work for some two -- cgit v1.2.3 From 39daee1a66178274f4e736c387bf07b0c379d72a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 23:22:02 +0200 Subject: Revert "reorganization. Placeholder for gnumach kernel mailing list. Why not replace existing L4 mailing list?" This reverts commit 79bede542f5138fac9a38d0c6b23af37af19e2f0. Per consensus from yesterday night's IRC discussion, I'm reverting this -- given the current set of mailing lists, we don't see a need for the rearrangement, and also not for a list dedicated to GNU Mach. --- mailing_lists.mdwn | 62 ++++++++++++++++++------------------------------------ 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-) diff --git a/mailing_lists.mdwn b/mailing_lists.mdwn index 5318c717..0f90d200 100644 --- a/mailing_lists.mdwn +++ b/mailing_lists.mdwn @@ -28,7 +28,6 @@ Posting_style#Interleaved_style]]. Also see these general notes about [[community/communication]]. ---- # Main Lists @@ -38,12 +37,8 @@ Most of these lists are [[unmoderated]], and most of them are hosted on Some of the Hurd user groups listed on [[community]] also host additional mailing lists. -## The Hurd - -###Development - -#### bug-hurd +## bug-hurd @@ -52,14 +47,14 @@ Technical discussion and bug reports; main development list. If you want to [[*contribute*|contributing]], please meet us here. -#### commit-hurd +## commit-hurd Commit notices for the GNU Hurd, and other automated status updates. -#### hurd-devel +## hurd-devel @@ -67,7 +62,7 @@ Low-traffic developers list. This list is *moderated* and *restricted*. Subscribe to [[hurd-devel-readers]] instead. -#### hurd-devel-readers +### hurd-devel-readers @@ -75,10 +70,7 @@ This list is a read-only mirror of [[hurd-devel]]. In contrast to the former, everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. - -### User support - -#### help-hurd +## help-hurd @@ -86,52 +78,41 @@ everyone is free to subscribe to this read-only list. Hurd-specific questions, for users of the Hurd. If you need help with [[*using the Hurd*|hurd/running]], please ask on this list. - -#### debian-hurd - - - - -Discussion around and questions regarding the -[[Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] distribution. + +## web-hurd -## Kernel + + -### Gnumach +Discussion of the web site. -### l4-hurd +## l4-hurd Discussion regarding a possible [[design_successor|hurd/ng]] to the Hurd. -## GNU system + +## debian-hurd + + + + +Discussion around and questions regarding the +[[Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] distribution. -### gnu-system-discuss +## gnu-system-discuss Discussion about the [[GNU_system|hurd/running/gnu]]. -## Website - - - -## web-hurd - - - - -Discussion of the web site. - -## Libc - -### libc-alpha +## libc-alpha @@ -150,7 +131,6 @@ you're interested in getting hold of (mostly) spam-free mboxes, then talk to [[Thomas_Schwinge|tschwinge]]. Also [[read_about|unmoderated]] the spam-rejection techniques being used today. ---- # Related -- cgit v1.2.3 From c70fb6eb439d3e32a4f6390e65438bfa8681cc73 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 00:27:12 +0200 Subject: Revert "2013: remove mention of L4 and Viengoos: Only historic interest." This reverts commit 1670e3aab1d3df481f2c233a177e95ca704a7dd4. Conflicts: contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 9 +++++---- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 50831fc2..1c20be8b 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -57,12 +57,13 @@ contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** **An incomplete GNU/Hurd Timeline** - 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. -- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). +- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), Hurd L4 starts, work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). - 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). -- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008/]]. +- 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. +- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. +- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008]], [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. - 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. -- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, 68% of the Debian packages build. +- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages build. - 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. - 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. - 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). -- cgit v1.2.3 From e7d43cc3dc8c57138d6c4923a3b1cdb8d970a349 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 00:45:30 +0200 Subject: An Incomplete GNU Hurd Timeline. Per consensus from yesterday night's IRC discussion, move this from the Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 page to the history page. Also, some light editing. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 20 ++----------- history.mdwn | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ hurd/status.mdwn | 2 +- 3 files changed, 51 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn index 1c20be8b..548869c5 100644 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -49,24 +49,10 @@ Due to the very small number of developers, our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. -We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd over the past -decades. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people +We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past +decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have -contributed one way or the other. **Thanks everybody!** - -**An incomplete GNU/Hurd Timeline** - -- 1997: Last release of the Hurd without Debian: GNU Hurd 0.2. -- 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3 (disks >= 10GiB), Hurd L4 starts, work on the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). -- 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). -- 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. -- 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique_and_position_paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel_for_GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. -- 2008: [[5_successful_GSoC_projects|community/gsoc/2008]], [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. -- 2009: [[GSoC_unionmount_translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start_of_Device_Drivers_in_Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. -- 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], Talk: [It’s about Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages build. -- 2011: [[GNU_Hurd_0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, Plans for Debian GNU Hurd in Wheezy, Hurd [bounties](http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p276) on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. -- 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous testing with Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), glibc changes pushed upstream, improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging_report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. -- 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/). +contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** --- diff --git a/history.mdwn b/history.mdwn index 8cde0a33..793ca04f 100644 --- a/history.mdwn +++ b/history.mdwn @@ -93,3 +93,50 @@ mailing lists. --- * [[Port_to_another_microkernel]] + +--- + +# An Incomplete GNU Hurd Timeline + + * 1997: GNU Hurd 0.2. + * 2002: GNU MIG 1.3, libio-based glibc, GNU Mach 1.3, Hurd L4 starts, work on + the transition from cthreads to pthreads starts, Hurd installation party in + Heidelberg, Toronto Hurd User Group meeting, Presentation at EpX in Paris + ([slides](http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/pres-en/)). + * 2003: [Crosshurd](http://packages.debian.org/crosshurd), [LinuxTag + 2003](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-07/msg00029.html). + * 2005: Hurd/L4 at Libre Software Meeting. + * 2007: [[FOSDEM|community/meetings/fosdem_2007]], the [[critique and + position paper|news/2007-01-14]], [[libchannel for GSoC|news/2007-10-01]], + [[IPv6|news/2007-10-12]], Hurd/L4 abandoned, Hurd on Xen. + * 2008: [[Five successful GSoC projects|community/gsoc/2008]], + [[Hurd/Viengoos|news/2008-12-12]]. + * 2009: [[GSoC unionmount translator|news/2009-09-30]], [[Start of Device + Drivers in Userspace|news/2009-11-30]]. 66% of the Debian packages build. + * 2010: [Arch Hurd](http://www.archhurd.org/), [Initial Nix + port](http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/hurd-master), + [[DDE|news/2010-02-28]], Thesis: [[Generalizing mobility for the + Hurd|news/2010-01-31]], [Hurd article in + LWN](http://lwn.net/Articles/395150/), [[procfs|hurd/translator/procfs]], + Talk: [It's about + Freedom](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2010/GNU-Hurd_-_Its_About_Freedom,_Or_Why_you_should_care.ogv), + GSoC: Debian Installer, Hurd/Viengoos on hold. 68% of the Debian packages + build. + * 2011: [[GNU Hurd 0.401|news/2011-04-01]], xkb, [Hurd in + xkcd](http://xkcd.com/844/), Graphical Debian Installer, + [[bounties|2011-05-02-foss_factory]] on FOSS Factory, [[Lots of attention + from the press brought lots of rumors|news/2011-q2-ps]], [Talk at GHM in + Paris](http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/#outline-container-2-5) + ([video](http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2011/Samuel_Thibault-GNU_Hurd.ogv)), + slab allocator, Continuous builds with Nix, improved build system, GSoC: + [[Java|user/jkoenig/java]]. 70% of the Debian packages build. + * 2012: Half the Linux 2.6.32 network drivers build with DDE, [Continuous + testing with + Nix](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-03/msg00019.html), + improved debugging, memory mapping [with red-black + tree](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-04/msg00109.html), + switch to pthreads finished, [[live-filesystem-debugging + report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. + * 2013: [Talk at + FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/), [[Debian + GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index e4b87923..8e6b72db 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@ GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. [[hurd/running/Nix]] provides QEMU images. That said, the last official release of the Hurd -without the Debian parts was 0.2 done in 1997. +without the Debian parts was 0.2 done in 1997 ([[history]]). New official releases will be done, as soon as the Hurd is sufficently stable and feature -- cgit v1.2.3 From b8f6fb64171e205c9d4b4a5394e6af0baaf802dc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Schwinge Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 01:10:01 +0200 Subject: news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013: Publish. --- contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn | 71 ------------------------------ history.mdwn | 2 +- hurd/status.mdwn | 2 +- news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn | 66 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 4 files changed, 68 insertions(+), 73 deletions(-) delete mode 100644 contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn create mode 100644 news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn deleted file mode 100644 index 548869c5..00000000 --- a/contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013.mdwn +++ /dev/null @@ -1,71 +0,0 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] - -[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable -id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this -document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or -any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant -Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license -is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation -License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] - - - -Note: this is a **DRAFT**. The release has not actually happened yet. Please do not broadcast yet. - -Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 *released*! -[[!if test="included()" then="""[[!toggle id=full_news -text="Details."]][[!toggleable id=full_news text="[[!paste id=full_news]]"]]""" -else=" -[[!paste id=full_news]]"]] - -[[!cut id="full_news" text=""" - -It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the -**release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013**. -This is a snapshot of Debian sid at the time of the Debian -"wheezy" release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is *not* an -official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release. - -The installation ISO images can be downloaded from -[Debian Ports](http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/hurd-i386/current/) -in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, DVD. Besides the friendly -Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try -Debian GNU/Hurd. - -Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with more -than 10.000 software packages available (more than 75% of the Debian archive, and more -to come!). - -Please make sure to read the -[configuration information](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install), -the [[FAQ]], -and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] -to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. - -Due to the very small number of developers, -our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful -operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. - -We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past -decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people -today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have -contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** - ---- - -The **GNU Hurd** is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. It is a -collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file -systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are -implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux). [[More -detailed|hurd/documentation]]. - -**GNU Mach** is the microkernel upon which a GNU Hurd system is based. It -provides an Inter Process Communication (IPC) mechanism that the Hurd uses to -define interfaces for implementing in a distributed multi-server fashion the -services a traditional operating system kernel provides. [[More -detailed|microkernel/mach/gnumach]]. - -"""]] diff --git a/history.mdwn b/history.mdwn index 793ca04f..67e56ba8 100644 --- a/history.mdwn +++ b/history.mdwn @@ -139,4 +139,4 @@ mailing lists. report|news/2012-q1-q2]]. * 2013: [Talk at FOSDEM](https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/hurd_microkernel/), [[Debian - GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. + GNU/Hurd 2013|news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013]]. diff --git a/hurd/status.mdwn b/hurd/status.mdwn index 8e6b72db..cca8fc15 100644 --- a/hurd/status.mdwn +++ b/hurd/status.mdwn @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ often includes new features). They offer *LiveCDs and QEMU images* to test-drive the Hurd, and about 78% of the Debian software archive are available. Along with the official Debian "wheezy" release (but not as an official Debian release), in May 2013 the Debian GNU/Hurd team released [[Debian -GNU/Hurd 2013|contributing/web_pages/news/hurd_2013]]. +GNU/Hurd 2013|news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013]]. [[hurd/running/Arch_Hurd]] offers *LiveCDs* for testing and installation. diff --git a/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn b/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..eda1ef53 --- /dev/null +++ b/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] + +[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable +id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this +document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or +any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant +Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license +is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation +License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] + +[[!meta date="2013-05-21 23:20 UTC"]] + +Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 *released*! +[[!if test="included()" then="""[[!toggle id=full_news +text="Details."]][[!toggleable id=full_news text="[[!paste id=full_news]]"]]""" +else=" +[[!paste id=full_news]]"]] + +[[!cut id="full_news" text=""" + +It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the +**release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013**. +This is a snapshot of Debian "sid" at the time of the Debian +"wheezy" release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is *not* an +official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release. + +The installation ISO images can be downloaded from +[Debian Ports](http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/hurd-i386/current/) +in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, DVD. Besides the friendly +Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try +Debian GNU/Hurd. + +Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with more +than 10.000 software packages available (more than 75% of the Debian archive, and more +to come!). + +Please make sure to read the +[configuration information](http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install), +the [[FAQ]], +and the [[translator primer|hurd/documentation/translator_primer]] +to get a grasp of the great features of GNU/Hurd. + +Due to the very small number of developers, +our progress of the project has not been as fast as other successful +operating systems, but we believe to have reached [[a very decent state|hurd/status]], even with our limited resources. + +We would like to thank all the people who have worked on GNU/Hurd [[over the past +decades|history]]. There were not many people at any given time (and still not many people +today, please [[join|contributing]]!), but in the end a lot of people have +contributed one way or another. **Thanks everybody!** + +--- + +The **GNU Hurd** is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. It is a +collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file +systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are +implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux). [[More +detailed|hurd/documentation]]. + +**GNU Mach** is the microkernel upon which a GNU Hurd system is based. It +provides an Inter Process Communication (IPC) mechanism that the Hurd uses to +define interfaces for implementing in a distributed multi-server fashion the +services a traditional operating system kernel provides. [[More +detailed|microkernel/mach/gnumach]]. + +"""]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From d997bf7d36007221d1b06d201c80320c53fa3ec7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Samuel Thibault Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 00:34:08 +0200 Subject: document tight loop message --- faq/off.mdwn | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/faq/off.mdwn b/faq/off.mdwn index a0b5e439..15f3c8d1 100644 --- a/faq/off.mdwn +++ b/faq/off.mdwn @@ -23,3 +23,7 @@ will not work. Simply use the equivalent shortcuts to respectively shutdown and reboot Hurd, provided natively, instead of from SYSV runlevels. + +GNU/Mach does not have APM or ACPI support, so it will just stop with +`In tight loop: hit ctrl-alt-del to reboot`, and you can switch off the +system. -- cgit v1.2.3