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+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014 Free Software
+Foundation, Inc."]]
+
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+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+[[!tag open_issue_hurd]]
+
+Given an `a.out` executable that only does `raise (SIGABRT)`, invoking that
+one...
+
+ * ... against `crash-dump-core` will...
+
+ * ... not overwrite existing `core` files.
+
+ Is this reasonable? Linux does overwrite them, for example.
+
+ * ... show big variances in running-time behavior:
+
+ $ TIMEFORMAT='real %R user %U system %S'
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.350 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 21:59 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 22.771 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 21:59 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.367 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:00 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 5.789 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:00 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 22.664 user 0.010 system 0.000
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:01 core
+
+ * ... produce a huge `core` file:
+
+ $ du -hs core
+ 17M core
+
+ On Linux, the `core` file occupies 76 KiB of disk space, which seems
+ much more reasonable. This is possibly related with the default 128MiB
+ heap preallocation.
+
+ * ... does not always produce a useful backtrace:
+
+ `abort();`
+
+ $ gdb test core
+ warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
+ [New Thread 86678]
+ warning: Wrong size fpregset in core file.
+ ...
+ Core was generated by `./test'.
+ Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
+ warning: Wrong size fpregset in core file.
+ (gdb) bt
+ #0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
+ #1 0x011f593f in __msg_sig_post (process=72, signal=6, sigcode=0, refport=1)
+ at /build/buildd-eglibc_2.10.2-7-hurd-i386-iGL6op/eglibc-2.10.2/build-tree/hurd-i386-libc/hurd/RPC_msg_sig_post.c:144
+ #2 0x0109a433 in kill_port (pid=<value optimized out>)
+ at ../sysdeps/mach/hurd/kill.c:68
+ #3 kill_pid (pid=<value optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/mach/hurd/kill.c:105
+ #4 0x0109a69f in __kill (pid=21142, sig=6) at ../sysdeps/mach/hurd/kill.c:139
+ #5 0x01099af6 in raise (sig=6) at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:27
+ #6 0x0109de59 in abort () at abort.c:88
+ #7 0x0804849f in main ()
+
+ `char *foo = 0; *foo = 1;`
+
+ $ gdb test core
+ Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
+ warning: Wrong size fpregset in core file.
+ #0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
+ (gdb) bt
+ #0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
+ #1 0x0108565b in __libc_start_main (main=0x8048464 <main>, argc=1, ubp_av=0x1023e64,
+ init=0x8048490 <__libc_csu_init>, fini=0x8048480 <__libc_csu_fini>, rtld_fini=0xea20 <_dl_fini>,
+ stack_end=0x1023e5c) at libc-start.c:251
+ #2 0x080483d1 in _start ()
+
+ `raise (SIGABRT);`
+
+ $ gdb a.out core
+ warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
+ [New Thread 76651]
+
+ warning: Wrong size fpregset in core file.
+ Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.0.3...[...]
+ Core was generated by `./a.out'.
+ Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
+
+ warning: Wrong size fpregset in core file.
+ #0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
+ (gdb) bt
+ #0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
+ Cannot access memory at address 0x17
+
+ [[!tag open_issue_gdb]] Probably [[GDB]] doesn't manage to dig in the stack properly.
+
+ * ... against `crash-suspend` will...
+
+ * ... not work at all:
+
+ $ CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out
+ $ [returns to the shell and doesn't suspended]
+
+ * ... show big variances in running-time behavior:
+
+ $ TIMEFORMAT='real %R user %U system %S'
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.381 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:04 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.332 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:04 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 21.228 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:04 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.323 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:05 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 22.279 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:05 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.362 user 0.000 system 0.000
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:08 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 21.110 user 0.000 system 0.000
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:08 core
+ $ rm -f core; time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted (core dumped)
+ real 1.350 user 0.000 system 0.020
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:08 core
+
+ * ... can reliably crash GNU Mach:
+
+ This happens if a `core` file is already present (and won't get
+ overwritten; see above). I reproduced this three times.
+
+ $ TIMEFORMAT='real %R user %U system %S'
+ $ time env CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-suspend ./a.out; ls -l core
+ Aborted
+ real 2.856 user 0.000 system 0.010
+ -rw------- 1 tschwinge tschwinge 17031168 Jul 7 22:08 core
+
+ panic: zalloc: zone kalloc.8192 exhausted
+ Kernel Breakpoint trap, eip 0x20020a77
+ Stopped at 0x20020a76: int $3
+ db> trace
+ 0x20020a76(2006aba8,4d0f7e9c,200209b0,0,0)
+ 0x20020a4d(2006b094,2006ae40,2000,20016803,4a5f4114)
+ 0x2002bca5(49a03564,1,0,9,1000)
+ 0x20022f4c(2000,4a5f45d4,4a84879c,49a46564,4ac43e78)
+ 0x20021e65(4ac43e78,4a5f45d4,4a5f4114,0,0)
+ 0x2005309d(2106ba9c,3,38,28,1783)
+ Bad frame pointer: 0x2106ba78
+
+ $ addr2line -i -f -e /boot/gnumach-xen 0x20020a76 0x20020a4d 0x2002bca5 0x20022f4c 0x20021e65 0x2005309d
+ Debugger
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/kern/debug.c:105
+ panic
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/kern/debug.c:148
+ zalloc
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/kern/zalloc.c:470
+ kalloc
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/kern/kalloc.c:185
+ ipc_kobject_server
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/kern/ipc_kobject.c:76
+ mach_msg_trap
+ /home/tschwinge/tmp/gnumach/gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch.build/../gnumach-1-branch-Xen-branch/ipc/mach_msg.c:1367
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-07
+
+ <rekado> I'm trying to investigate a crash in pfinet, so it will actually
+ die. I just want to know why it dies and what the value of a few
+ variables has been when it died.
+ <teythoon> have you tried to make it dump core?
+ <rekado> oh, good idea.
+ <rekado> I'll try that.
+ <teythoon> do you know how?
+ <rekado> I don't, but I think I can figure it out.
+ <teythoon> look into /servers
+ <rekado> do I just have to set CRASHSERVER=/servers/crash-dump-core and run
+ pfinet in that environment?
+ <teythoon> possibly, I've never heard of CRASHSERVER, but it's certainly
+ plausible ;)
+ <teythoon> I just link crash to crash-dump-core, that way it is permanent
+ and for all processes
+ <rekado> found it in the website contents
+ <rekado> gotta try that.
+ <rekado> hmm, I can't get pfinet to dump core; linked /servers/crash to
+ /servers/crash-dump-core and compiled pfinet to raise(6) at one point.
+ <rekado> But no core file is created.
+ <teythoon> :/
+ <teythoon> rekado: try cd /tmp ; cat & kill -SIGILL %% to see if that dumps
+ core
+ <rekado> yes, this works.
+ <rekado> I replaced the original pfinet with my crashing version.
+ <rekado> Should it dump core to /hurd then?
+ <teythoon> I'm not sure about it's wd
+ <teythoon> hm, ok, I just did settrans -ca foo /hurd/pfinet and then killed
+ that pfient with SIGILL and it dumped core
+ <teythoon> to the directory I issued the settrans from
+ <rekado> So I must run it myself. I can't just replace the original binary
+ and have it dump core somewhere.
+ <teythoon> it seems that you have to use settrans -ca to start an active
+ translator
+ <teythoon> do fsysopts /servers/socket/2 to find out the cmdline of your
+ pfinet
+ <rekado> that's very helpful.
+ <rekado> thanks
+ <teythoon> then use this to restart it, e.g.:
+ <teythoon> settrans -afg /servers/socket/2 $(fsysopts /servers/socket/2)
+ <teythoon> if it dies it should dump core to you cwd
+ <rekado> great. Thank you very much. I had been wondering how to get the
+ full cmdline of pfinet.
+ * rekado makes a note of fsysopts
+ <rekado> yup, there's the core file. Nice.
+ <teythoon> cool 8D
+ <teythoon> btw, in case using gdb doesn't work out for your problem, if you
+ start pfinet (or any translator) this way (with -a == active), you can
+ write stuff to stderr
+ <rekado> yeah, I noticed that. The assert() call wrote to stderr. Useful.
+ <braunr> rekado: core dumps are another not-working-well feature of the
+ hurd :/
+ <braunr> i recommend attaching
+ <tschwinge> rekado: In case that's still helpful:
+ <http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/debugging/translator.html>.
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-14
+
+ <gnu_srs> How to get a core dump?
+ <teythoon> either set CRASHSERVER to /servers/crash-dump-core for the
+ process you want the core file of
+ <teythoon> or make /servers/crash point to crash-dump-core to make this the
+ default for all processes
+ <gnu_srs> does it work now, it did not before?
+ <teythoon> it does for me, never had issues
+ <gnu_srs> k!
+ <teythoon> well, i believe the second option has issues
+ <teythoon> if two processes crash, both may write/create a file in the same
+ location
+
+
+---
+
+If someone is working in this area, they may want to have a look at
+[[GDB_gcore]], and port <http://code.google.com/p/google-coredumper/>, too.