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-[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010, 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
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@@ -19,3 +19,51 @@ requirements Wine has: only libc / POSIX / etc., or if there are
[[Samuel|samuelthibault]] suspects that *there's some need for LDT table
allocation. There is kernel support for this,* however.
+
+
+IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-08-11
+
+ < arethusa> I've been trying to make Wine work inside a Debian GNU/Hurd VM,
+ and to that end, I've successfully compiled the latest sources from Git
+ after installing the libc (devel) packages from experimental and
+ personally patching Wine with http://pastebin.com/rg6dx09G
+
+[[rg6dx09G.patch]]
+
+ < arethusa> my question is, when trying to launch Wine, I'm seeing "wine
+ client error:0: sendmsg: (os/kern) invalid address" from the client side,
+ whereas the wineserver seems to be starting and running correctly, how
+ could I debug this issue further? using rpctrace doesn't seem to help, as
+ the trace just hangs when run on the Wine loader instead of yielding
+ insight
+ < kilobug> arethusa: isn't there a wine debuguer that can start a gdb when
+ wine encounters an error or something like that ?
+ < arethusa> it's too early for that
+ < kilobug> or least give you a full traceback of the wine code where the
+ error occur ?
+ < arethusa> the error is happening during initial connect to the
+ wineserver, in dlls/ntdll/server.c
+ < arethusa> but that doesn't help me figure out why sendmsg would error out
+ in this way
+ < arethusa>
+ http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/blob/HEAD:/dlls/ntdll/server.c#l361
+ < azeem_> arethusa: probably some of the msghdr entries are not supported
+ by the Hurd's glib
+ < azeem_> c
+ < pinotree> haha, socket credentials, which we don't support yet
+ < azeem_> yep
+ < pinotree> youpi: ↑ another case ;)
+ < azeem_> arethusa: just implement those and it should work
+ < kilobug> in pflocal ? or glibc ?
+ < pinotree> pflocal
+ < arethusa> azeem_: hmm, okay, thanks
+ < pinotree> arethusa: their lack is a known issue, and makes things like
+ dbus and gamin not work
+ < arethusa> it's
+ https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/sendmsg_scm_creds.html and
+ related links I assume?
+
+[[sendmsg_scm_creds]]
+
+ < youpi> yes
+ < pinotree> (but that patch is lame)