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+[[!tag open_issue_glibc]]
+
+
+# Python
+
+IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-04-13
+
+ <abeaumont> ok, cause of first python testsuite failure located, now the
+ hard part, how to best fix it :)
+ <abeaumont> how to redesign the code to avoid the problem... that's the
+ hard part, mostly cause i lack contextual info
+ <abeaumont> tschwinge: the problem is pretty much summarized by this
+ comment in _hurd_select (in glibc): /* If one descriptor is bogus, we
+ fail completely. */
+ <pochu> does POSIX say anything about what to do if one fd is invalid?
+ <pochu> and the other question is why python is calling select() with an
+ invalid fd
+ <abeaumont> pochu: yep, it says it should not fail completelly
+ <pochu> then that's our bug :)
+ <pinotree> abeaumont: just note that (at least on debian) some tests may
+ hang forever or cause hurd/mach to die
+ <pinotree> abeaumont: see in the debian/rules of the packaging of each
+ pythonX.Y source
+ <pinotree> ... there's a list of the tests excluded from the test suite run
+ <abeaumont> well, to be precise, python has a configure check for
+ 'broken_poll' which hurd fails, and therefore python's select module is
+ not built, and anything depending on it fails
+ <abeaumont> broken_poll checks exactly for that posix requirement
+ <abeaumont> the reason for python using a non-existant
+ descriptor... unknown :D
+ <pochu> we should fix select to not fail miserably in that case
+ <pinotree> abeaumont: we have a patch to fix the broken poll check to
+ actually disable the poll module
+ <pochu> pinotree: but the proper fix is to fix select(), which is what
+ abeaumont is looking at
+ <abeaumont> pinotree: i'd say that's exactly what python's configure check
+ does itself -- disable building the select module
+ <pochu> abeaumont: what pinotree means is that the check is broken, see
+ http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/view/python2.6/2.6.6-8/hurd-broken-poll.diff
+ <pinotree> yes, the configure check for poll does the check, but not
+ everything of the poll module gets disabled (and you get a build failure)
+
+---
+
+See also [[select]] and [[select_vs_signals]].