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<youpi> oh
<braunr> http://jl-icase.home.comcast.net/~jl-icase/LinuxTCP2.html
-## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-03
-
-In context of the item on [[/contributing]].
-
- <rekado> About this task: "Make pfinet OK with the ethernet device going
- away." --- how can I test this? How can I remove the ethernet device?
- <pinotree> settrans on the ethernet device, handled by the netdde
- translator
- <pinotree> that is, make it go away (settrans -fg)
- <rekado> Ah, I see.
- <rekado> Thanks
- <pinotree> check its status before with showtrans
- <pinotree> then, after having made it go away, set it again
- <rekado> I don't think I'm doing this right... After `settrans -fg
- /dev/eth0` I should not be able to access the network anymore, but it
- still works.
- <rekado> How can I figure out which of the four network devices is actually
- used?
- <braunr> rekado: the file system is used to open files, i.e. access
- services
- <braunr> it's not used to revoke access
- <braunr> once pfinet has obtained a port to the network device, it keeps it
- <rekado> oh, yes, of course. Sorry, this is all very
- new to me.
- <rekado> I'm not sure what the problem is that this task describes. In
- what way is pfinet "not OK" with the ethernet device going away?
- <braunr> rekado: the idea is to make pfinet able to cope with a driver
- crash
- <rekado> Can I trigger a driver crash for test purposes? (Or do I have to
- build a purposefully broken driver first?)
- <braunr> use kill
- <rekado> Oh, good.
- <braunr> iirc, netdde doesn't restart correctly :x
- <braunr> you'll probably have to fix it a bit
- <braunr> i guess there is some persistent state that prevents it from
- reinitializing correctly
- <rekado> okay
- <rekado> I may need one more pointer: where can I find the netdde code?
- Grep'ing around I only see it only mentioned as an argument to
- /hurd/devnode; also: should I work in some incubator branch or directly
- in the hurd repo?
- <braunr> rekado: incubator branch
- <rekado> Okay. Thank you for your patience. I'll play with this in the
- next few days.
- <braunr> enjoy
- <rekado> :)
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-05
-
- <rekado> When I kill the /hurd/netdde process I can no longer access the
- network (as expected);
- <rekado> To restore connectivity I run "settrans -g eth0 /hurd/devnode -M
- /dev/netdde eth0" from the /dev directory.
- <rekado> When I access the network again everything is fine. (I do see a
- message telling me "irq handler 11: release an dead delivery port"
- <rekado> )
- <rekado> Is it the goal to avoid having to run settrans again to run netdde
- after it crashes or is killed?
- <youpi> you don't need to run settrans again
- <youpi> that should get triggered automatically
- <rekado> Hmm, after killing netdde I get "Resource lost" when using wget.
- <rekado> It doesn't seem to be restarted automatically.
- <youpi> try again
- <youpi> the first wget makes pfinet try to use netdde and fail, thus crash
- <youpi> the second wil respawn pfinet
- <youpi> ideally pfinet shouldn't die, that's a TODO mentioned in the
- "contributing page"
- <rekado> Ah, so that's what should be prevented.
- <youpi> it's just a matter of making pfinet be fine with errors from the
- eth translator, and simply reopen it instead of dying
- <rekado> That's the thing I've been trying to figure out.
- <rekado> when I run wget a second (or third) time I get a different error;
- "Name or service not known."
- <rekado> It's only okay again when I use settrans
- <youpi> maybe the devnode translator also needs some fixing
- <youpi> it's odd that I don't have the issue though
- <rekado> I'm using the qemu image, updated just yesterday.
- <youpi> same here
- <youpi> anyway, now you know where to put your hands :)
- <rekado> yes, thanks a lot.
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-07
-
- <rekado> in pfinet/ethernet.c:ethernet_open there's an assertion:
- edev->ether_port == MACH_PORT_NULL
- <rekado> This is violated when netdde was killed and the device is
- reopened.
- <rekado> I'm not sure what should be done: destroy the port before
- reopening or drop the assertion?
- <rekado> If I drop the assertion, Mach seems to handle this just fine.
- <rekado> Says "irq handler 11: release an [sic] dead delivery port" and
- then carries on without problems.
- <rekado> Is this a warning or an error, or can this be ignored?
- <rekado> (or none of the above?)
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-08
-
- <rekado> I have a simple patch for pfinet that lets it recover from an
- error in ethernet_xmit when /hurd/netdde and /hurd/devnode have been
- killed.
- <rekado> It doesn't work, though, when only netdde has been killed.
- <rekado> With devnode still around device_open fails with "(ipc/send)
- invalid destination port"
- <rekado> I don't know where device_open is defined and why this error is
- returned.
- <rekado> I guess the error refers to the "master_device" port returned by
- file_name_lookup() in ethernet_open()
- <rekado> Why would file_name_lookup() return an invalid port when netdde is
- dead but devnode is still running?
- <braunr> rekado: maybe because devnode needs to perform a fresh lookup as
- well
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-09
-
- <rekado> braunr: re devnode: devnode only performs a single lookup in
- parse_opt(), i.e. at start-up.
- <rekado> I'll try to understand devnode enough to patch it.
- <braunr> rekado: that's the problem
- <braunr> it should perform a lookup every time it's opened
-
-[[!message-id "1378730237-8091-1-git-send-email-rekado@elephly.net"]],
-[[!message-id "1378731824-8928-1-git-send-email-rekado@elephly.net"]].
-
- <rekado> I submitted two patches to the mailing list. I've tested them on
- Debian GNU/Hurd but based them on the incubator/dde branch.
- <teythoon> rekado: awesome, reliability fixes are very much welcome
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-09-18
-
- <rekado> youpi: my apologies for the delay in getting back to you with
- improvements to my pfinet/devnode patches. Been very busy.
- <braunr> rekado: development pace on the hurd has always been slow, no need
- to apologize
-
-
-### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-12
-
- <braunr> youpi: btw, the patch you finally decided to write yourself making
- pfinet continue on driver failure is as expected quite handy :)
- <youpi> :)
-
-
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