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diff --git a/hurd/console/discussion.mdwn b/hurd/console/discussion.mdwn index 0022ec23..48e2009e 100644 --- a/hurd/console/discussion.mdwn +++ b/hurd/console/discussion.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,5 @@ -[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012, 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] +[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2012, 2013, 2014 Free Software Foundation, +Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this @@ -48,3 +49,183 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] <pinotree> http://xkbcommon.org/ ¡û sounds interesting for our console translator + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-01 + +[[!tag open_issue_hurd]] + + <pinotree> teythoon_: df: `/dev/cons': Operation not supported + <pinotree> missing/stub implementation in the console translator? + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-02 + + <teythoon_> pinotree: yes, df does file_statfs which fails + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-22 + + <C-Keen> hello hurders! I happened to watch samuel's gnu hackers talk and + wanted to start to use the hurd more regularily. However I noticed that + when I use the preinstalled image, there seems to be some issue with the + console driver + <C-Keen> when I start emacs the mode line is drawn 3 times above the bottom + of the screen + <C-Keen> is this know or did I miss a step in setting it up? Or should I + use the debian installer and start from scratch again? + <youpi> C-Keen: it's probably unknown, and not an issue on your side. Did + you try to upgrade to the latest packages? + <C-Keen> youpi: doing that now + <C-Keen> my base image is debian-hurd-20130504.img + <youpi> still an issue with the latest packages indeed + <youpi> it seems emacs and the hurd console don't agree on the number of + lines... + <youpi> C-Keen: you can set TERM=vt100 to work around the issue + <C-Keen> ah alright. + <youpi> or TERM=linux + <C-Keen> youpi: can you start the emacs in X? I get an empty window here + <youpi> I never tried + <youpi> I never use emacs :) + <C-Keen> I see ;) + <youpi> it seems there's a bug in cud1 indeed + <C-Keen> what's cud1? + <youpi> see man 5 terminfo + <braunr> yes it's a terminfo problem + <braunr> the hurd console isn't well defined there + <youpi> braunr: actually it seems like a bug in emacs + <youpi> cud may or may not scroll the screen, depending on the + implementation + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-28 + + <braunr> ahem, looks like the last xkb-data package dropped + /usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/default :/ + <ivanshmakov> braunr: Looks more like an upstream issue; check, e. g., + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/commit/?id=882f5470713d. + <ivanshmakov> braunr: Slightly more surprising is that xkb-data 2.8 was + packaged for Debian last Sunday. While the upstream has released 2.10.1 + back in October, as per + http://www.x.org/releases/individual/data/xkeyboard-config/. + <gg0> ivanshmakov: + http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xkeyboard-config/news/20131222T160519Z.html + <ivanshmakov> gg0: ACK, thanks. (No idea how did I read 2.10.1 as 2.8, as I + was looking on essentially the same information.) + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-30 + + <ZenWalker> on debian/hurd, with startx, show the error "cannot open + keyboard (no such file or directory)" + <braunr> ZenWalker: what version of xkb-data do you have ? + <ZenWalker> braunr: 2.10.1-1 + <braunr> ZenWalker: there is a bug in that package + <braunr> you can confirm it by spotting an error during system startup that + mentions a missing "compat/default" file + <braunr> this prevents the hurd console from starting + <braunr> and without the hurd console, xorg can't find the input device + <braunr> hopefully it will be fixed soon + <ZenWalker> braunr: yes, "couldn't open include file "compat/default"" + <ZenWalker> thanks + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-31 + + <braunr> youpi1: fyi, xkb-data doesn't provide compat/default, which + prevents the hurd console from starting + + <ZenWalker> braunr: X works with xkb-data 2.5.1-3 :) + + <braunr> maybe xkb-data isn't the problem + <braunr> maybe we need to fix the hurd-console + <braunr> youpi: we should probably fix the hurd with regard to xkb-data + before releasing the next packages + <braunr> it's very unlikely that xkb-data will be fixed + <braunr> they say compat/default is unused since march 2012 + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-01 + + <DusXMT> Is anyone else having problems with the console? + <gg0> downgrade xkb-data to + http://snapshot.debian.org/package/xkeyboard-config/2.5.1-3/#xkb-data_2.5.1-3 + <DusXMT> ty + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-04 + + <mihi> does anybody know if the fact that aptitude looks shitty on the hurd + console is a bug in the console implementation or some broken + term{cap,info} config? + <youpi> ncurses is pending a terminfo fix, possibly related + <youpi> you can try to recompile your hurd terminfo entry, adding xenl to + it, and see whether it fixes it + <mihi> hmm, just did an aptitude upgrade, and now after a restart the Hurd + console does not even start any more (did not mess with my terminfo yet) + <mihi> Couldn't open include file "compat/default" + <youpi> yes, xkb-data broke, downgrade it + <mihi> youpi, to which version? + <youpi> well, the previous one :) + <mihi> (or can aptitude or another tool show me what version I had + previously?) + <youpi> you can simply take the but-last on snapshot.debian.org + <mihi> youpi, thanks, that helped. And adding xenl to hurd.ti and + recompiling helped, too :) + + +## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-13 + + <gnu_srs> Couldn't open include file "compat/default" from the console + <teythoon> that has been reported on the ml and as debian bug + <teythoon> a workaround is both in the upcoming hurd package as well as in + the ones i provide in hurd-ci + <gnu_srs> Any workaround for the hang in the console for now? + <teythoon> there is no hang + <teythoon> there is simply no getty + <gnu_srs> how come? + + <gnu_srs> and the xkb-data problems I thought was causing problems with the + hurd console to start, not the mach console. + <teythoon> gnu_srs: exactly, the missing xkb data prevents your + hurd-console from running + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-05 + + <bu^> btw, does the console handle other keymaps than the qwerty US one ? + Samuel thibault talked about this during his fosdem conference + <braunr> it does + <braunr> check /etc/default/hurd-console + <bu^> how ? I mean which lib does it use, because I face a similar issue + with my programms and would like a "smart" way to handle this (meaning + not reimplement something doing it worse) + <bu^> thx + <braunr> bu^: xkb + <bu^> I'm not clear with xkb and how much it is related to xorg, I would + like to be xorg independant, but the hurd console also should be and it + seems to work + <youpi> bu^: xkb is just a library + <youpi> xorg uses it + <youpi> but other applications can use it + <youpi> it just happens to be maintained by x.org people + <bu^> oh ok, nice, I'll look at it + <bu^> we are talking about this one ? + http://www.x.org/releases/current/doc/libX11/XKB/xkblib.html + <youpi> yes + <bu^> btw the way special caracters like é or à breaks the backspace + (erase) key as it will not count properly the number of caracters on the + line + <bu^> and I end up with remaining caracters I can't erase + <bu^> I also started to look for this one but didn't find a proper way to + use it as a library http://www.kbd-project.org + <youpi> bu^: probably a bogus locale + <youpi> that just works for me + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-25 + +[[!tag open_issue_hurd]] + + <gg0> to reproduce "task f5ca6e40 deallocating an invalid port 1711, most + probably a bug." just restart hurd-console |