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diff --git a/faq/how_many_developers/discussion.mdwn b/faq/how_many_developers/discussion.mdwn index 9fc44f25..6ca47c9a 100644 --- a/faq/how_many_developers/discussion.mdwn +++ b/faq/how_many_developers/discussion.mdwn @@ -8,7 +8,48 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] -IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-09 +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-05-22 + + <silver_hook> Since apparently Hurd's aim is a very stable and transparent + system ...why aren't there any companies backing it up? + <antrik> silver_hook: it's not in a state yet where it would be + commercially interesting + <antrik> silver_hook: and after some epic failures in the 90s, few + companies dare to invest in microkernel development... + <silver_hook> Isn't MacOS X running on top of Mach? + <antrik> yes, but it's not a true microkernel system + <antrik> for one, it's single-server, which is boring + <antrik> also it uses co-location, i.e. runs all the system code in the + kernel address space -- they are separated only formally + <antrik> even NT is more of a microkernel system I think + <silver_hook> Oh, OK, I'm not that knowledgeable about kernels to know + that. + <antrik> well, now you know :-) + <silver_hook> Yup, thanks :) + <antrik> most people don't know this, so don't worry + <silver_hook> I was just wondering that it might be potentially an ideal + server system, right? + <antrik> well, *potentially* it might be an ideal general-purpose system, + which includes server use... though personally I think the advantages of + the architecture are more visible in desktop use, as servers tend to be + rather streamlined, with little need for individualisation :-) + <antrik> however, it still remains to be proven that true (multi-server) + microkernel operating systems actually work for general-purpose + applications... + <silver_hook> antrik: I mean regarding hosting or virtual servers. + <antrik> so far, they are only successful in the much simpler embedded + space + <antrik> well, yes, the Hurd architecture in theory allows very much + flexibility regarding virtual environments... I once blogged about + that. not sure whether server applications really require that + flexibility though. I think most people are pretty happy with the various + virtualisation/container solutions available in Linux. again, the + flexibility is more relevant in the desktop space IMHO + <antrik> dosn't mean it wouldn't be useful for servers too... just not as + much of a selling point I fear :-) + + +# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-09 <antrik> gnu_srs1: regarding your question why people aren't interested in workin on Hurd: Eric Raymond explains it pretty well in his famous |