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diff --git a/TWiki/TWikiDiscuss.mdwn b/TWiki/TWikiDiscuss.mdwn index 665f4854..dd615872 100644 --- a/TWiki/TWikiDiscuss.mdwn +++ b/TWiki/TWikiDiscuss.mdwn @@ -12,93 +12,18 @@ One thing though. Refactor _mercilessly_! :-) [Yes! [[Main/GrantBow]]] ---- -How often are the Webalizer stats run? [[Main/GrantBow]] - -Once a day. [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - -The Webalizer daily stats don't seem to have been run (daily or otherwise) since the 7th if the daily graph is accurate. - -[http://hurd.gnufans.org/webalizer/usage\_200211.html](http://hurd.gnufans.org/webalizer/usage_200211.html) - --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -Extremely weird. I've renamed and clearified some issues in the cronjob, hopefully this will go away now. It is weird because the vmlinux.org/webalizer/ works perfectly. We'll see if the updated script works within the next 24h. - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -I partitioned your entry, maybe that's a good way to work? That way we can remove issues when they become irrelevant ... I found it quite handy and helped me partition my time as well. - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 11 Nov 2002 - -It took me a minute to figure out what you did but it looks good now that I understand it. - --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -OK. Then we can remove these entries now. :) - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -Thanks for installing the [Smilies Plugin](http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/SmiliesPlugin)! :-) With some of the existing IRC culture this should be very nice once people know it's available and start using it. - -Peeve - One thing I think is confusing is using a different name for a web than is actually coded into twiki.cfg. If we want to rename the webs now (as I feel should be done for the whole distribution) then we need to rename them NOW. As more pages get created the name is used to give the actual name of pages: example [[Main/CloroxWork]] and I can't type in [[Users/CloroxWork]] as the web menu would imply! Navigation is critical as we go to a multiple TWiki web design. - --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 11 Nov 2002 - -Well ... the naming of the webs. It's a real hassle, actually. I think it can be done, but a shell script for such a change will take some time to construct. It would include parsing all files and using sed to replace Main and TWiki while first shutting down the webserver. This would also nullify old URL-links people might have to the Main and TWiki webs, which can of course be fixed with rewrite rules in Apache. If you really want to press the issue I can look into it (if I can find the time) - otherwise we are stuck with the Main and TWiki web names. - -And, of course, for clarity of navigation we should of course use the real names. - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 11 Nov 2002 - -OK, so I think we should stick with the old names and live with it. If I ever install TWiki again I'll change the names before doing ANYTHING. - --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -OK. - -TWiki is, by far, the best wiki I've seen out there. These small cosmetic problems I can live with - at least until I go nuts and write that script one day ... ;-) - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 15 Nov 2002 - -I'm also confused about where some of the WebMenus are generated. On the Hurd web it's there but I don't understand where the others are auto-generated from. I'll have to defer to the GNU Skin master! +One thing I struggled with during my modifications of [[TWiki/WebMenu]] was where to put all the various "administrative" tools for the web we are actually using. Perhaps they should go at the bottom of the [[WebHome]] page instead of in the [[WebMenu]], but the [[WebMenu]] makes more sense from an ease of navigation viewpoint. If you are in a web and want to see the most active topics for that Web I don't want to force folks to go back to [[WebHome]] unless it's absolutely necessary. -- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 11 Nov 2002 -The Hurd web has its own [[WebMenu]] (from the days when there only was one web). The other webs get their webmenus from the default TWiki.WebMenu. It's in the TWiki web all plugins install their specific files/topics. The "Edit Menu" link at the bottom of each menu always points to the current webs' menu topic, even if it does not have one. This is a bit confusing and I can change it to point to the TWiki.WebMenu for **all** webs to make things/navigation easier. - -See the [[TWiki/WebMenuFormat]] topic for details. - -On a further note, I think it is possible to only have **one** WebMenu for the whole Wiki. - -* Having one menu simplifies maintenance. -* Webs cam have a flag "expand=[always|never]" which can simplify things for us. -* There is a generic "ITEM" called "LINK" that _should_ work if you want to link to topics outside of the current web from within the context of the current web. - -I changed the global WebMenu so that Main and TWiki are on top. I removed their default items, since they aren't that interesting for those webs. What remains are [mostly] useful links to all users that are displayed always. - --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 11 Nov 2002 - -We also need to get navigation synchronized. I very much like the way we can do [[WebMenu]] topics for each web but we need to do some QA to make them all usable. and consistent. - -One thing I struggled with during my modifications of [[Hurd/WebMenu]] was where to put all the various "administrative" tools for the web we are actually using. Perhaps they should go at the bottom of the [[WebHome]] page instead of in the [[WebMenu]], but the [[WebMenu]] makes more sense from an ease of navigation viewpoint. If you are in a web and want to see the most active topics for that Web I don't want to force folks to go back to [[WebHome]] unless it's absolutely necessary. Does this make any sense or is this another pet peeve of mine that others (Joachim?) may not agree with? - --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 11 Nov 2002 - -You make perfect sense in your monologue about navigational issues. I completely agree! The most visited topics should be listed in the menu, and so should perhaps also some of the administrative topics. But I too hesitate about the latter ones. - -I have thought about the naming of the administrative topics. E.g., I named [[WebChanges]] ChangeLog and [[WebIndex]] Index, etc. - -* What do you think about that naming strategy in the WebMenu? -* Should we perhaps fall back on the original naming and thus simplify the understanding of what is an actual Hurd/Mach/Mig topic and what is a boring TWiki topic? - -I'm in favour of the original naming. Again, see my proposed change to the TWiki.WebMenu. +I can modify the bottom of the space where the [[TWiki/WebMenu]] resides to include "Top 5" from the [[WebStatistics]] of the current web. --- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 11 Nov 2002 +What do you think about adding, at least, [[WebNotify]] to the list of items listed for each web in the [[TWiki/WebMenu]]? (Preferrably at the bottom of each listing.) -Why is the Hurd web now colored WHITE? -- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 15 Nov 2002 +-- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 23 Nov 2002 -Huh? [...] -- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 15 Nov 2002 +How about splitting/deleting parts of this topic into TWiki.TWikiDiscuss and Hurd.WebDiscuss ... I think this is similar to something you suggested in an email earlier. -Strange, must have been my browser or something. Nothing looked changed which is why I was totally confused. +I'm still catching up with you. :-) --- [[Main/GrantBow]] - 20 Nov 2002 +-- [[Main/JoachimNilsson]] - 23 Nov 2002 |