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-rw-r--r--contributing/discussion.mdwn21
-rw-r--r--contributing/web_pages/news/moth_next.mdwn5
-rw-r--r--hurd/documentation/translator_primer.mdwn6
-rw-r--r--hurd/faq/off.mdwn4
-rw-r--r--hurd/translator/procfs/jkoenig/discussion.mdwn18
-rw-r--r--microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list.mdwn15
-rw-r--r--microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list/discussion.mdwn29
-rw-r--r--microkernel/mach/port.mdwn2
-rw-r--r--news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn12
-rw-r--r--open_issues/binutils.mdwn4
-rw-r--r--open_issues/gcc.mdwn11
-rw-r--r--open_issues/gnumach_memory_management.mdwn29
-rw-r--r--open_issues/gnumach_vm_map_entry_forward_merging.mdwn20
-rw-r--r--open_issues/libpthread_dlopen.mdwn36
-rw-r--r--open_issues/multithreading.mdwn4
-rw-r--r--open_issues/performance/io_system/clustered_page_faults.mdwn40
-rw-r--r--open_issues/placement_of_virtual_memory_regions.mdwn16
-rw-r--r--open_issues/rm_fr.mdwn12
-rw-r--r--open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.mdwn9
-rw-r--r--open_issues/xattr.mdwn13
21 files changed, 303 insertions, 49 deletions
diff --git a/contributing.mdwn b/contributing.mdwn
index c006e554..1745b61a 100644
--- a/contributing.mdwn
+++ b/contributing.mdwn
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ Every single contribution is very much encouraged.
There are various ways to contribute; read up on contributing to...
-[[!toc levels=3]]
+[[!toc levels=4]]
If someone of you is lurking around here and would like to contribute, but
feels she / he could do so better under formal mentoring: please
@@ -77,31 +77,47 @@ documents.
<a name="porting"></a>
## Porting Packages
-Debian is currently the Hurd distribution of choice among Hurd users and
-developers.
+Please [[contact_us]] before spending a lot of time on the following porting
+tasks: some work may already have been done that you can base your work upon.
-Here is a
-[[list_of_Debian_packages_that_need_porting|hurd/running/debian/porting]].
+For guidelines, please have a look at the dedicated [[porting_page|hurd/porting]].
-You can also just [[install_Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] and find what
-doesn't work or suit you and try to improve that.
-You can also have a look at the [List of failing packages](http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/failed_packages.txt).
+### Debian GNU/Hurd
-For guidelines, please have a look at the dedicated [[porting_page|hurd/porting]].
+[[!template id=note text="""#### Debian Wheezy Release
+There is a goal of getting Debian GNU/Hurd into shape for a proper release with
+Debian Wheezy (expected towards the end of 2012 or beginning of 2013).
-## Open Issues
+The *to do* list is on <http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd>."""]]
-There is a list of [[open_issues]]. This list includes everything from bug
-reports to open-ended research questions.
+The following missing packages/missing functionality block a lot of other
+packages, and are thus good candidates for porting, in order to increase
+archive coverage:
+* umount functionality in busybox
+* gtest
+* hdf5
+* hyperestraier
+* sane*
+* ghc (ghc6 and ghc7)
+* [[open_issues/gnat]]
+* ruby1.9.1
-## Debian Wheezy release
+Here is a [[list of packages that need porting|hurd/running/debian/porting]].
-We target the Debian Wheezy release!
+You can also just [[install_Debian_GNU/Hurd|hurd/running/debian]] and find what
+doesn't work or suit you and try to improve that.
+
+Or, you can pick one from the [list of failing
+packages](http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/failed_packages.txt).
-The *to do* list is on <http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd>.
+
+## Open Issues
+
+There is a list of [[open_issues]]. This list includes everything from bug
+reports to open-ended research questions.
<a name="insta-dev-env"></a>
diff --git a/contributing/discussion.mdwn b/contributing/discussion.mdwn
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..5a6bfd7c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/contributing/discussion.mdwn
@@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+
+[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
+id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
+document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
+any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+[[!tag open_issue_documentation]]
+
+
+# One-stop Development Environment
+
+Invent something.
+
+
+# Mailing Lists
+
+Add link to [[mailing_lists]] to page, and suggest following these.
diff --git a/contributing/web_pages/news/moth_next.mdwn b/contributing/web_pages/news/moth_next.mdwn
index dec41583..e8a0428a 100644
--- a/contributing/web_pages/news/moth_next.mdwn
+++ b/contributing/web_pages/news/moth_next.mdwn
@@ -67,4 +67,9 @@ And …
* <http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/hurd-not-default>
+ * LWN
+
+ * Bits from the Debian GNU/Hurd porters,
+ id:"20110721172827.GF4057@const.famille.thibault.fr"
+
"""]]
diff --git a/hurd/documentation/translator_primer.mdwn b/hurd/documentation/translator_primer.mdwn
index 4586a8e6..e5c8c160 100644
--- a/hurd/documentation/translator_primer.mdwn
+++ b/hurd/documentation/translator_primer.mdwn
@@ -41,7 +41,11 @@ Then you setup the translator /hurd/hello in the file/node hello.
After that you check the contents of the file, and the translator returns "Hello World!".
-To finish it, you tell the translator to go away from the file "hello" via "settrans -g hello" and verify that now the file is empty again.
+To finish it,
+you remove the translator from the file "hello"
+(and tell any active running instances to go away)
+via "settrans -g hello".
+Having done that, verify that now the file is empty again.
### Transparent FTP
diff --git a/hurd/faq/off.mdwn b/hurd/faq/off.mdwn
index 363436b0..64009101 100644
--- a/hurd/faq/off.mdwn
+++ b/hurd/faq/off.mdwn
@@ -19,3 +19,7 @@ will not work. Simply use the equivalent shortcut
$ halt
which is provided natively on GNU/Hurd, instead of from SYSV runlevels.
+
+Note that due to a bug,
+we [[recommend you run syncfs|open_issues/sync_but_still_unclean_filesystem]]
+prior to issuing the `halt` command.
diff --git a/hurd/translator/procfs/jkoenig/discussion.mdwn b/hurd/translator/procfs/jkoenig/discussion.mdwn
index b66af7de..64e3776e 100644
--- a/hurd/translator/procfs/jkoenig/discussion.mdwn
+++ b/hurd/translator/procfs/jkoenig/discussion.mdwn
@@ -166,3 +166,21 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-03-28
mentoring the previous procfs implementation
<antrik> (though I never got around to look at his buggy code...)
<jkoenig> ok
+
+IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-22
+
+ <pinotree> hm, why /proc/$pid/stat is 600 instead of 644 of linux?
+ <jkoenig> pinotree, it reveals information which, while not that sensitive,
+ would not be available to users through the normal proc interface.
+ <jkoenig> (it's available through the ps command which is setuid root)
+ <jkoenig> we discussed at some point making it 644, IIRC.
+ <pinotree> hm, then why is it not a problem on eg linux?
+ <jkoenig> (btw you can change it with the -s option.)
+ <jkoenig> pinotree, it's not a problem because the information is not that
+ sensitive, but when rewriting procfs I preferred to play it self and
+ consider it's not procfs' job to decide what is sensitive or not.
+ <jkoenig> IIRC it's not sensitive but you need the task port to query it.
+ <jkoenig> like, thread times or something.
+ <pinotree> status is 644 though
+ <jkoenig> but status contains information which anyone can ask to the proc
+ server anyway, I think.
diff --git a/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list.mdwn b/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list.mdwn
index 2152c079..6c984784 100644
--- a/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list.mdwn
+++ b/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list.mdwn
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2007, 2008, 2009 Free Software Foundation,
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 Free Software Foundation,
Inc."]]
[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
@@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
-is included in the section entitled
-[[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
# CPU Architecture
@@ -68,10 +68,11 @@ All common IDE drives should work. Some drive geometries do not work,
e.g. drives with hundreds of GiB of storage space, see [[!GNU_Savannah_bug
26425]].
-[[!toggle id="SATA" text="SATA drives may work in compatibility mode."]]
-<!-- Sure? --[[tschwinge]] -->
-[[!toggleable id="SATA" text="""
+## SATA
+
+SATA drives may work in compatibility mode.
+
This is how booting a [[GNU/Hurd_system|hurd]] will typically fail if GNU Mach
couldn't connect to the hard disk, e.g., in a SATA system without IDE
compatibility mode:
@@ -81,7 +82,7 @@ compatibility mode:
There *may* be an option in the system's BIOS setup to configure enabling such
a compatibility mode.
-"""]]
+
# Device Drivers
diff --git a/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list/discussion.mdwn b/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list/discussion.mdwn
index 69ca3190..2b65956a 100644
--- a/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list/discussion.mdwn
+++ b/microkernel/mach/gnumach/hardware_compatibility_list/discussion.mdwn
@@ -1,4 +1,33 @@
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2007, 2008, 2011 Free Software Foundation,
+Inc."]]
+
+[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
+id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
+document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
+any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+[[!tag open_issue_documentation]]
+
Further information may still be found on
<http://www.nongnu.org/thug/gnumach_hardware.html>
and could perhaps be incorporated into that page.
--[[tschwinge]]
+
+
+# SATA
+
+IRC, freenode, +hurd, 2011-07-24
+
+ <braunr> youpi: concerning the ide compatibility problem, it seems some
+ bioses provide several modes
+ <braunr> youpi: "legacy ide" and "native ide"
+ <braunr> i don't know what native ide really means, but when debugging ide
+ probing in gnumach, it just looks like there is nothing to detect
+ <braunr> and even in this mode, linux uses the ahci driver
+ <youpi> apparently native means it still uses the IDE protocol, but
+ possibly with other IRQs
+ <youpi> i.e. you need a PCI driver to handle that
+ <braunr> ok
diff --git a/microkernel/mach/port.mdwn b/microkernel/mach/port.mdwn
index ba2e22c2..7f02628d 100644
--- a/microkernel/mach/port.mdwn
+++ b/microkernel/mach/port.mdwn
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ send-once right. These messages are (probably) queued and when the server task
tries to receive messages by having a [[thread]] use its port receive right, it
gets the message(s). This is called [[IPC]].
-Port rights themselvse can be [[delegate]]d in a [[message]], too. When the
+Port rights themselves can be [[delegate]]d in a [[message]], too. When the
receiver dequeues the message, the right is made available to it.
The delivery of [[message]]s is reliable and strictly ordered. When a
diff --git a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn
index be9cef50..cbf039b0 100644
--- a/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn
+++ b/news/2011-q2-ps.mdwn
@@ -33,12 +33,12 @@ In the following, we try to clear the situation up a bit.
want to help, please see our [[contributing]] page and the *to do* list
maintained on <http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd>.
- * *GNU Hurd developers want the Linux kernel to die*. {X} **Wrong**. All of
- us are happy users of the Linux kernel, every day, and GNU/Linux is the
- free operating system of choice, which we're using ourselves (unless
- sitting in front of a GNU/Hurd system). We don’t work on the GNU Hurd due
- to any hatred against the Linux kernel or even Linus; we work on it because
- of the [[additional capabilities and clean design|advantages]] that it
+ * *GNU Hurd developers want the Linux kernel to die*. {X}
+ **Wrong**. All of us are happy users of the Linux kernel, every
+ day, and GNU/Linux is the free operating system of choice, which
+ we're using ourselves (unless sitting in front of a GNU/Hurd
+ system). We work on the Hurd instead of Linux because of the
+ [[additional capabilities and clean design|advantages]] it
provides.
* *Java support for GNU/Hurd is in the works*. (./) **True**. Jérémie
diff --git a/open_issues/binutils.mdwn b/open_issues/binutils.mdwn
index 1c3bc022..b3f58832 100644
--- a/open_issues/binutils.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/binutils.mdwn
@@ -30,8 +30,8 @@ though, as explained below.
# Configuration
-Last reviewed up to the [[Git mirror's 57a1a9e822a763aeeb3ea66fd493aa58888c76c4
-(2011-07-03) sources|source_repositories/binutils]].
+Last reviewed up to the [[Git mirror's 63dd9daf3e4b1fdad043bda3377bc1a078f9bfe1
+(2011-07-22) sources|source_repositories/binutils]].
* Globally
diff --git a/open_issues/gcc.mdwn b/open_issues/gcc.mdwn
index f0f2af51..37864524 100644
--- a/open_issues/gcc.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/gcc.mdwn
@@ -67,8 +67,8 @@ testsuite.
# Configuration
-Last reviewed up to the [[Git mirror's 7c9f953a01d23c6b6885dc908d5b1dba8009efd4
-(2011-07-18) sources|source_repositories/gcc]].
+Last reviewed up to the [[Git mirror's 6678cb4ef6c7d8d9232249b5d722a0d6dfd328b5
+(2011-07-22) sources|source_repositories/gcc]].
<http://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html> has documentation for the
`configure` switches.
@@ -170,14 +170,11 @@ Last reviewed up to the [[Git mirror's 7c9f953a01d23c6b6885dc908d5b1dba8009efd4
`check_effective_target_pie` should include `*-*-gnu*`, too.
- * [high] 9b0fef97f18ed5c9f2f9a361262fbb450f2b0b53
-
- Very likely needed for us, too. Patch on gcc-patches and in
- *config/extra_parts* branch.
-
# Build
+ * Waiting: ef3c41c78d877ac478ddaac3942243f9bd0844f3 switches to g++.
+
Here's a log of a GCC build run; this is from our [[Git repository's
09ba3e78c07654e08c8bef82761dbbb26d3c00c9 (2011-07-18)
sources|source_repositories/gcc]], run on kepler.SCHWINGE and coulomb.SCHWINGE.
diff --git a/open_issues/gnumach_memory_management.mdwn b/open_issues/gnumach_memory_management.mdwn
index f15c4d25..448aafcc 100644
--- a/open_issues/gnumach_memory_management.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/gnumach_memory_management.mdwn
@@ -894,3 +894,32 @@ There is a [[!FF_project 266]][[!tag bounty]] on this task.
<braunr> ok
<braunr> it's tricky
<braunr> mcsim: try to find where the first use of the allocator is made
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-22
+
+ <mcsim> braunr, hello. Kernel with your allocator already compiles and
+ runs. There still some problems, but, certainly, I'm on the final stage
+ already. I hope I'll finish in a few days.
+ <tschwinge> mcsim: Oh, cool! Have you done some measurements already?
+ <mcsim> Not yet
+ <tschwinge> OK.
+ <tschwinge> But if it able to run a GNU/Hurd system, then that already is
+ something, a big milestone!
+ <braunr> nice
+ <braunr> although you'll probably need to tweak the garbage collecting
+ process
+ <mcsim> tschwinge: thanks
+ <mcsim> braunr: As back-end for allocating memory I use
+ kmem_alloc_wired. But in zalloc was an opportunity to use as back-end
+ kmem_alloc_pageable. Although there was no any zone that used
+ kmem_alloc_pageable. Do I need to implement this functionality?
+ <braunr> mcsim: do *not* use kmem_alloc_pageable()
+ <mcsim> braunr: Ok. This is even better)
+ <braunr> mcsim: in x15, i've taken this even further: there is *no* kernel
+ vm object, which means all kernel memory is wired and unmanaged
+ <braunr> making it fast and safe
+ <braunr> pageable kernel memory was useful back when RAM was really scarce
+ <braunr> 20 years ago
+ <braunr> but it's a source of deadlock
+ <mcsim> Indeed. I'll won't use kmem_alloc_pageable.
diff --git a/open_issues/gnumach_vm_map_entry_forward_merging.mdwn b/open_issues/gnumach_vm_map_entry_forward_merging.mdwn
index b2b20c5b..90137766 100644
--- a/open_issues/gnumach_vm_map_entry_forward_merging.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/gnumach_vm_map_entry_forward_merging.mdwn
@@ -171,6 +171,22 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
entries)
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-21
+
+ <braunr> tschwinge: you may remove the forward map entry merging issue :/
+ <pinotree> what did you discover?
+ <braunr> tschwinge: it's actually much more complicated than i thought, and
+ needs major changes in the vm, and about the way anonymous memory is
+ handled
+ <braunr> from what i could see, part of the problem still exists in freebsd
+ <braunr> for the same reasons (shadow objects being one of them)
+
+
+# GCC build time using bash vs. dash
+
+<http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2011-07/msg00444.html>
+
+
# Procedure
* Analyze.
@@ -181,8 +197,4 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
* Measure again.
- * Have [[tschwinge]] measure with gcc build (currently needs 11 h).
- [[tschwinge]] will in the mean time figure out the difference between using
- bash and dash.
-
* Have Samuel measure on the buildd.
diff --git a/open_issues/libpthread_dlopen.mdwn b/open_issues/libpthread_dlopen.mdwn
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..f60c81a4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/open_issues/libpthread_dlopen.mdwn
@@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+
+[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
+id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
+document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
+any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+[[!tag open_issue_libpthread]]
+
+IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2011-07-21.
+
+ <youpi> there's one known issue with pthreads
+ <youpi> you can't dlopen() it
+ <youpi> which also means you can't dlopen() a module which depends on it if
+ the main application hasn't used -lpthread already
+ <youpi> (so as to get libpthread initialized early, not at the dlopen()
+ call)
+ <lucas> I get this while building simgrid:
+ <lucas> cd /home/lucas/simgrid-3.6.1/obj-i486-gnu/examples/gras/console &&
+ /usr/bin/cmake -E create_symlink
+ /home/lucas/simgrid-3.6.1/obj-i486-gnu/lib/libsimgrid.so
+ /home/lucas/simgrid-3.6.1/obj-i486-gnu/examples/gras/console/simgrid.so
+ <lucas> cd /home/lucas/simgrid-3.6.1/obj-i486-gnu/examples/gras/console &&
+ lua /home/lucas/simgrid-3.6.1/examples/gras/console/ping_generator.lua
+ <lucas> lua:
+ /home/buildd/build/chroot-sid/home/buildd/byhand/hurd/./libpthread/sysdeps/generic/pt-mutex-timedlock.c:68:
+ __pthread_mutex_timedlock_internal: Assertion `__pthread_threads' failed.
+ <lucas> Aborted (core dumped)
+ <youpi> that's it, yes
+ <youpi> (or at least it has the same symptoms)
+ <lucas> it would need fixing in lua, not in SG, then, right?
+ <youpi> yes
+ <lucas> ok, thanks
diff --git a/open_issues/multithreading.mdwn b/open_issues/multithreading.mdwn
index 18fc257e..4309494d 100644
--- a/open_issues/multithreading.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/multithreading.mdwn
@@ -31,6 +31,10 @@ instead they should be scaled according to the backends' characteristics.
The [[hurd/Critique]] should have some more on this.
+[*Event-based Concurrency
+Control*](http://soft.vub.ac.be/~tvcutsem/talks/presentations/T37_nobackground.pdf),
+Tom Van Cutsem, 2009.
+
# Alternative approaches:
diff --git a/open_issues/performance/io_system/clustered_page_faults.mdwn b/open_issues/performance/io_system/clustered_page_faults.mdwn
index 37433e06..9e20f8e1 100644
--- a/open_issues/performance/io_system/clustered_page_faults.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/performance/io_system/clustered_page_faults.mdwn
@@ -12,7 +12,10 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
[[community/gsoc/project_ideas/disk_io_performance]].
-IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
+[[!toc]]
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
<braunr> exceptfor the kernel, everything in an address space is
represented with a VM object
@@ -88,9 +91,8 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
<braunr> recommend*
<etenil> ok
----
-IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
<antrik> etenil: OSF Mach does have clustered paging BTW; so that's one
place to start looking...
@@ -103,3 +105,35 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-02-16
can serve as a starting point
<http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-06/msg00023.html>
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-22
+
+ <braunr> but concerning clustered pagins/outs, i'm not sure it's a mach
+ interface limitation
+ <braunr> the external memory pager interface does allow multiple pages to
+ be transfered
+ <braunr> isn't it an internal Mach VM problem ?
+ <braunr> isn't it simply the page fault handler ?
+ <antrik> braunr: are you sure? I was under the impression that changing the
+ pager interface was among the requirements...
+ <antrik> hm... I wonder whether for pageins, it could actually be handled
+ in the pages instead of Mach... though this wouldn't work for pageouts,
+ so probably not very helpful
+ <antrik> err... in the pagers
+ <braunr> antrik: i'm almost sure
+ <braunr> but i've be proven wrong many times, so ..
+ <braunr> there are two main facts that lead me to think this
+ <braunr> 1/
+ http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach-doc/Memory-Objects-and-Data.html#Memory-Objects-and-Data
+ says lengths are provided and doesn't mention the limitation
+ <braunr> 2/ when reading about UVM, one of the major improvements (between
+ 10 and 30% of global performance depending on the benchmarks) was
+ implementing the madvise semantics
+ <braunr> and this didn't involve a new pager interface, but rather a new
+ page fault handler
+ <antrik> braunr: hm... the interface indeed looks like it can handle
+ multiple pages in both directions... perhaps it was at the Hurd level
+ where the pager interface needs to be modified, not the Mach one?...
+ <braunr> antrik: would be nice wouldn't it ? :)
+ <braunr> antrik: more probably the page fault handler
diff --git a/open_issues/placement_of_virtual_memory_regions.mdwn b/open_issues/placement_of_virtual_memory_regions.mdwn
index 95b9e545..39478f20 100644
--- a/open_issues/placement_of_virtual_memory_regions.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/placement_of_virtual_memory_regions.mdwn
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
[[!tag open_issue_gnumach]]
-IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-13
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-13
<braunr> does anyone know if posix (or mach) has requirements or a policy
about the placement of allocations of virtual space ?
@@ -87,3 +87,17 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-13
<braunr> jkoenig: i really want to miss as little as possible on the vm
part, so having detailed information about what actually happens on
running hurd systems is something i need
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-24
+
+ <braunr> oh btw, i noticed there are many mappings below the program text
+ <braunr> most notably, the stack
+ <braunr> except for special applications like wine, could this break
+ anything ?
+ <braunr> i also wonder how libraries are mapped, because there is nothing
+ to perform top-down allocations
+ <braunr> which means if the region below the program text is exhausted,
+ libraries could be mapped right after the heap
+ <youpi> it shouldn't break anything except things like wine & libgc, yes
+ <braunr> which could make malloc() fail :/
diff --git a/open_issues/rm_fr.mdwn b/open_issues/rm_fr.mdwn
index 89a803ab..aab52d97 100644
--- a/open_issues/rm_fr.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/rm_fr.mdwn
@@ -25,3 +25,15 @@ really waits for all I/Os, which basically means strictly serializing
file removals: remove one file, wait for the disk to have done it
(~10ms), remove the next one, etc. I guess this is for safety reasons
against crashes, but isn't the sync option there for such kind of
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-23
+
+ <antrik> youpi: hm... async deletion does have one downside: I just removed
+ something to make space, and retried the other command immediately
+ afterwards, and it still said "no space left on device"... a few seconds
+ later (after the next regular sync I suppose?) it worked
+ <youpi> well, that's sorta expected, yes
+ <youpi> we get the same on Linux
+ <youpi> Mmm, on second thought, I'm not sure how that can happen
+ <youpi> the asynchronous thing is for disk writes, not cache writes
diff --git a/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.mdwn b/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.mdwn
index edc92796..cee7a2bc 100644
--- a/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.mdwn
@@ -272,3 +272,12 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
to solve security issues at all
<antrik> and as braunr already pointed out, this wouldn't help with DoS
problems
+
+
+# Linux kernel, Symlink/Hardlink Attack
+
+Even though not directly comparable, the issues described at [Symlink
+Protection](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#Symlink_Protection)
+and [Hardlink
+Protection](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#Hardlink_Protection)
+do bear some similarity with the issue we're discussing here.
diff --git a/open_issues/xattr.mdwn b/open_issues/xattr.mdwn
index 8b08ef1e..40222f78 100644
--- a/open_issues/xattr.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/xattr.mdwn
@@ -23,5 +23,14 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-06-01
these instead of our Hurd-specific passive translator information in
inodes.
-If interested in working on this, see [[!GNU_Savannah_task
-#5503]]/[[!GNU_Savannah_patch #5126]], and talk to [[tschwinge]].
+If interested in working on this, talk to [[tschwinge]], and see these resources:
+
+ * [[!GNU_Savannah_task 5503]], [[!GNU_Savannah_patch 5126]]
+
+ * <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2006-02/threads.html#00115>,
+ <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2006-01/threads.html#00180>,
+ <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2006-05/threads.html#00042>
+
+ * <http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg07260.html>,
+ <http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg07259.html>,
+ <http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg07261.html>