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diff --git a/hurd/ng/history.mdwn b/hurd/ng/history.mdwn index c7fba575..c6c23aa4 100644 --- a/hurd/ng/history.mdwn +++ b/hurd/ng/history.mdwn @@ -6,39 +6,40 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU_Free_Documentation_License|/fdl.txt]]."]] -The idea of using L4 was initially voiced in the Hurd community by Okuji. -He created the l4-hurd mailing list in November 2000. It does not appear -that he got any further than simply suggesting it as an alternative to Mach -and doing some reading. +The idea of using [[microkernel/L4]] as a [[microkernel]] for a +[[Hurd_system|hurd]] was initially voiced in the [[Hurd_community|community]] +by Okuji Yoshinori. He created the [[*l4-hurd*_mailing_list|mailinglists]] in +November 2000. It does not appear that he got any further than simply +suggesting it as an alternative to [[microkernel/Mach]] and doing some reading. -[[NealWalfield]] started the original Hurd/L4 port while at Karlsruhe -in 2002. "My intention was to adapt the Hurd to exploit L4's concepts and -intended design patterns; it was not to simply provide a Mach -compatibility layer on top of L4. When I left Karlsruhe, I no longer -had access to Pistachio as I was unwilling to sign an NDA. Although -the specification was available, the Karlsruhe group only [released -their code in May 2003][1]. Around this time, Marcus began hacking on -Pistachio. He created a relatively complete run-time. I didn't -really become involved again until the second half of 2004, after I -complete by Bachelors degree. +[[NealWalfield]] started the original Hurd/L4 port while at Karlsruhe in 2002. +He explains: -Before Marcus and I considered Coyotos, we had already rejected some -parts of the Hurd's design. The resource management problems were -what prompted me to look at L4. Also, some of the problems with -translators were already well-known to us. (For a more detailed -description of the problems we have identified, see our [[Critique]] in this -month's SIGOPS OSR. We have also written a forward-looking -[[PositionPaper]].) +> My intention was to adapt the Hurd to exploit L4's concepts and intended +> [[design_pattern]]s; it was not to simply provide a Mach +> [[compatibility_layer]] on top of L4. When I left Karlsruhe, I no longer had +> access to [[microkernel/l4/Pistachio]] as I was unwilling to sign an NDA. +> Although the specification was available, the Karlsruhe group only [released +> their code in May +> 2003](https://lists.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de/pipermail/l4ka/2003-May/000345.html). +> Around this time, Marcus began hacking on Pistachio. He created a relatively +> complete run-time. I didn't really become involved again until the second +> half of 2004, after I complete by Bachelors degree. -We visited Jonathan Shapiro at Hopkins in January 2006. This resulted -in a number of discussions, some quite influential, and not always in -a way which aligned our position with that of Jonathan's. This was -particularly true of a number of security issues. +> Before Marcus and I considered [[microkernel/Coyotos]], we had already +> rejected some parts of the Hurd's design. The resource management problems +> were what prompted me to look at L4. Also, some of the problems with +> [[translator]]s were already well-known to us. (For a more detailed +> description of the problems we have identified, see our [[Critique]] in the +> 2007 July's SIGOPS OSR. We have also written a forward-looking +> [[Position_Paper]].) -Hurd-NG, as we originally called it, was an attempt to articulate the -system that we had come to envision in terms of interfaces and -description of the system's structure. The new name was selected, if -I recall correctly, as it clearly wasn't the Hurd nor the Hurd based -on L4." +> We visited Jonathan Shapiro at Hopkins in January 2006. This resulted in a +> number of discussions, some quite influential, and not always in a way which +> aligned our position with that of Jonathan's. This was particularly true of +> a number of security issues. - [1]: https://lists.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de/pipermail/l4ka/2003-May/000345.html +> Hurd-NG, as we originally called it, was an attempt to articulate the system +> that we had come to envision in terms of interfaces and description of the +> system's structure. The new name was selected, if I recall correctly, as it +> clearly wasn't the Hurd nor the Hurd based on L4. |