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[[!tag open_issue_glibc open_issue_libpthread]]

Things to consider doing when bumping the glibc SONAME.

There are some comments in the sources, for example `hurd/geteuids.c`: `XXX
Remove this alias when we bump the libc soname.`

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# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2012-12-14

In context of [[packaging_libpthread]]/[[libpthread]].

    <pinotree> once libc is switched internally from cthreads to pthreads (thus
      breaking its BC), may be worth cleanup the hurd-specific exported symbols
    <tschwinge> pinotree: Yes.  If you already have ideas about what to clean
      up, feel free to add a new page or a section on open_issues/glibc.
    <pochu> we're gonna break backwards compatibility in glibc on hurd? that
      could be the perfect moment to fix the /dev/fd/N problem without adding
      new RPCs, though we'd probably have to break backwards-compatibility in
      the exec server IIRC...
    <tschwinge> pochu: Oh, I have to re-read that discussion, but thanks for
      reminding!

[[!GNU_Savannah_bug 28934]], [[user/pochu]], [[!message-id
"4BFA500A.7030502@gmail.com"]].


# `time_t` -- Unix Epoch vs. 2038

## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-12

    <azeem> because it gets discussed in #debian-devel for the Linux i386
      architecture right now: what's the deal with hurd-i386 and the 32bit
      epoch overflow in 2038?
    <braunr> what do you mean ?
    <azeem> braunr: http://lwn.net/Articles/563285/
    <braunr> ok but what do you mean ?
    <braunr> i don't think there is anything special with the hurd about that
    <azeem> well, time_t is 64bit on amd64 AIUI
    <braunr> it's a signed long
    <azeem> so maybe the Hurd guys were clever from the start
    <azeem> k, k
    <braunr> our big advantage is that we can afford to break things a little
      without too much trouble
    <braunr> in a system at work, we use unsigned 32-bit words
    <braunr> which overflows in 2106
    <braunr> and we already include funny comments that predict our successors,
      if any, will probably fail to deal with the problem until short before
      the overflow :>
    <azeem> luckily, no nuclear reactors are running the Hurd sofar
    <braunr> i wonder how the problem will be dealt with though
    <braunr> ah, openbsd decided to break their abi
    <azeem> yeah
    <braunr> that's probably the simplest solution
    <azeem> "just recompile"
    <braunr> and they can afford it too
    <azeem> yeah
    <braunr> good to see people actually worry about it
    <azeem> I guess people are getting worried about where Linux embedded is
      being put into
    <braunr> they're right about that
    <azeem> "Please, don't fix the 2038 year issue. I also want to have some
      job security :)"
    <braunr> haha