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+
+[[!tag open_issue_hurd]]
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-05
+
+ <teythoon> Creating device nodes: fd fdX std vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY
+ sdXs1Y cdX netdde ethX loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq/sbin/MAKEDEV: 75:
+ /sbin/MAKEDEV: cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <teythoon> that's new
+ <braunr> teythoon: ouch
+ <teythoon> braunr: everything works fine though
+ <braunr> teythoon: that part isn't too surprising
+ <teythoon> y?
+ <braunr> teythoon: /dev/null already existed, didn't it ?
+ <teythoon> braunr: sure, yes
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-19
+
+ <braunr> hm
+ <braunr> i'm seeing those /sbin/MAKEDEV: cannot create /dev/null:
+ Interrupted system call messages too
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-20
+
+ <teythoon> braunr: interesting, I've seen some of those as well
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-26
+
+ <gg0> cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <gg0>
+ http://gnashdev.org:8010/builders/z-sid-hurd-i386/builds/26/steps/system_upgrade/logs/stdio
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-27
+
+ <anatoly> gg0: I had same /dev/null error after upgrading my old image
+ (more than 6 months old) a week ago. But I got such message only on boot
+ and it didn't autostart hurd console.
+ <anatoly> Tried to upgrade current qemu image (from topic) to reproduce it
+ but it works OK after upgrade
+ <gg0> i can reproduce it with # apt-get install --reinstall python2.7 dbus
+ # for instance
+ <gg0> http://paste.debian.net/plain/78566/
+ <teythoon> gg0: i've seen those as well, but i cannot reliably reproduce it
+ to track it down
+ <teythoon> i believe it's benign though
+ <gg0> in shell scripts if -e is set, it aborts on failures like those
+ <teythoon> uh, it does? :/
+ <gg0> so if this happens in prerm/postinst scripts, package is not properly
+ installed/removed/configured and it fails
+ <gg0> redirecting stdout and strerr to /dev/null shouldn't be so
+ problematic, anything wrong in my setup?
+ <gg0> can you reproduce it?
+ <teythoon> not reliably
+ <teythoon> gg0: but i do not believe that anything is wrong with your
+ machine
+ <gg0> any way to debug it?
+ <teythoon> having a minimal test case that triggers this reliably would be
+ great
+ <teythoon> but i fear it might be a race
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-28
+
+ <teythoon> have you seen the /dev/null issue ?
+ <braunr> yes
+ <teythoon> what do you make of it ?
+ <braunr> no idea
+ <teythoon> i believe it is related to the inlining work i've done
+ <braunr> just like the bogus deallocation at boot, it needs debugging :)
+ <braunr> hm i don't think so
+ <teythoon> no ?
+ <braunr> i think we saw it even before your started working on the hurd ;p
+ <teythoon> i've never seen it before my recent patches
+ <teythoon> maybe i made it worse
+ <braunr> not worse, just exposed more
+ <teythoon> right
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-01-29
+
+ <gg0> cannot reproduce "cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call"
+ on a faster VM
+ <gg0> might depend on that?
+
+
+## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-02
+
+ <pere> but now saw a strange message at the end of the boot:
+ /etc/init.dhurd-console: 55: /etc/init.d/hurd-console: cannot create
+ /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <gg0> oh well known on a slow VM (even old qemu/kvm btw), i can't reproduce
+ it on a faster/more recent one
+ <gg0> slow VM = gnash buildbot slave
+ http://gnashdev.org:8010/builders/z-sid-hurd-i386/builds/26/steps/system_upgrade/logs/stdio
+ <gg0> especially bad on system upgrade because it doesn't finish to run
+ prerm/postinst scripts :/
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-05
+
+ <gg0> Creating device nodes: fd fdX std vcs hdX hdXsY/sbin/MAKEDEV: 75:
+ /sbin/MAKEDEV: cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call hdXs1Y
+ sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y cdX netdde ethX loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random
+ urandom kbd mouse shm.
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-11
+
+ <gg0> typical dist-upgrade http://paste.debian.net/plain/81346/
+ <gg0> many fewer cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <gg0> on a faster machine
+ <teythoon> gg0: wow, so many interrupted system call messages
+ <teythoon> i don't get as many, but makedev produces a few every time i run
+ it as well
+
+
+## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-16
+
+ <pere> anyone here got any idea why upgrading initscripts fail on the hurd
+ gnash autobuilder, as reported on <URL:
+ http://gnashdev.org:8010/builders/z-sid-hurd-i386/builds/28/steps/system_upgrade/logs/stdio
+ >?
+ <gg0> pere: cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <pere> gg0: I noticed the message, but fail to understand how this could
+ happen.
+ <gg0> 13:16 < gg0> oh well known on a slow VM (even old qemu/kvm btw), i
+ can't reproduce it on a faster/more recent one
+ <gg0> 13:17 < gg0> slow VM = gnash buildbot slave
+ http://gnashdev.org:8010/builders/z-sid-hurd-i386/builds/26/steps/system_upgrade/logs/stdio
+ <gg0> 13:18 < gg0> especially bad on system upgrade because it doesn't
+ finish to run prerm/postinst scripts :/
+ <gg0> i remember teythoon talking about something racy
+ <teythoon> gg0: the /dev/null issue is known for a long time
+ <teythoon> gg0: some of the recent work (i believe mine) has made the
+ problem more apparent
+ <teythoon> gg0: that's what braunr told me
+ <gg0> i see. it would be really nice fixing it. really annoying. i
+ workaround it by moving null away and moving it back under /dev before
+ halting/rebooting
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-17
+
+ <tschwinge> Earlier today, I upgraded my Debian GNU/Hurd installation from
+ several months ago, and I'm now seeing bogus things as follows; is that a
+ known issue?
+ <tschwinge> checking for i686-unknown-gnu0.5-ar... ar
+ <tschwinge> configure: updating cache ./config.cache
+ <tschwinge> configure: creating ./config.status
+ <tschwinge> +./config.status: 299: ./config.status: cannot create
+ /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <tschwinge> config.status: creating Makefile
+ <tschwinge> (The plus is from a build log diff.)
+ <azeem> 13:36 < gg0> pere: cannot create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <azeem> 20:10 < teythoon> gg0: the /dev/null issue is known for a long time
+ <tschwinge> Anyone working on resolving this? I't causing build issues:
+ <tschwinge> checking for i686-unknown-gnu0.5-ranlib... (cached) ranlib
+ <tschwinge> checking command to parse nm output from gcc-4.8
+ object... [...]/opcodes/configure: 6760: ./configure.lineno: cannot
+ create /dev/null: Interrupted system call
+ <tschwinge> failed
+ <tschwinge> checking for dlfcn.h... yes
+ <tschwinge> Anyway, will go researching IRC logs.
+ <azeem> tschwinge: (that one was from #debian-hurd)
+ <azeem> I assume teythoon and/or braunr can comment once he's back
+ <azeem> they're*
+ <braunr> tschwinge: we've been seing this more often lately but noone has
+ attempted to fix it yet
+ <braunr> tschwinge: if you have a reliable way to reproduce that /dev/null:
+ Interrupted system call error, please let us know
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-23
+
+ <gg0> braunr: cool. i'd vote /dev/null one as next one in your todo
+ <gg0> still frequent on this slow vm
+ http://gnashdev.org:8010/builders/z-sid-hurd-i386/builds/30/steps/system_upgrade/logs/stdio
+ <gg0> especially during setup-translators -k
+ <braunr> yes