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@@ -133,17 +133,7 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
# <a name="multiboot">Multiboot</a>
-See also discussion about *multiboot* on [[arm_port]].
-
-
-## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-09
-
- <matlea01> I was just wondering - once gnumach is compiled and I have the
- gnumach elf, is that bootable? I.e. can I use something like
- "qemu-system-i386 -kernel gnumach"?
- <kilobug> matlea01: you need something with multiboot support (like grub)
- to provide the various bootstrap modules to the kernel
- <matlea01> Ah, I see
+See also [[hurd/running/qemu#multiboot]].
## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-24
@@ -173,32 +163,3 @@ See also discussion about *multiboot* on [[arm_port]].
<nalaginrut> you may use gdb for that
<nalaginrut> for bochs, you don't have to use external debugger
<congzhang> thanks for explain
- <congzhang> does anyone succeed boot hurd with qemu multiboot boot
- function?
- <congzhang> with -kernel and -initrd command line parameter
- <nalaginrut> I boot it with grub, in qemu, it's fine. Then I moved to
- physical machine
- <congzhang> boot with grub work for me too
- <congzhang> I want to know whether it is possible to boot from qemu
- directly
- <congzhang> qemu can directly load kernel and hurd module for linux
- <congzhang> nalaginrut: can you help to test whether hurd-console service
- start will cause hurd black death?
- <nalaginrut> I know qemu can boot Linux without MBR, but I don't know if
- it's true for Hurd too
- <nalaginrut> congzhang: I'm busy for other works now ;-)
- <congzhang> ok, thks:)
- <youpi> qemu's multiboot options don't seem to allow providing
- ext2fs.static and ld.so, so I don't think it's possible
- <congzhang> I try to do this, because hurd hurd-console cause system to
- death very high frequency
- <youpi> (because qemu doesn't implement all of multiboot)
- <congzhang> qemu help show that's possible, -initrd support multi module
- and parameter
- <congzhang> en, I will check with them later
- <youpi> how do you pass parameters to modules?
- <youpi> ah, right, it's after the file name
- <youpi> well, then simply try to pass the kernel, and the two modules
- <youpi> with the same option as in the grub config templates
- <youpi> it's fortunate that neither ext2fs nor exec need a comma on their
- command line...