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<teythoon> youpi: hm, I think my board has no ahci controller, linux uses
the sata_via module to talk to it :/
<youpi> ah :/
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-05
+
+ <braunr> teythoon: i don't completely trust the driver
+ <teythoon> oh ?
+ <braunr> it doesn't work on my laptop, and i had a failure once on a "big"
+ partition of 128G
+ <teythoon> hm
+ <teythoon> my hardware does not implement ahci, but in qemu it works fine
+ for me
+ <braunr> well qemu is the only supported "hardware"
+ <teythoon> but then my partitions are not that big
+ <youpi> braunr: no, it does work on my laptop too
+ <braunr> ok
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-12
+
+ <braunr> youpi: hum, sorry to ask but how do you use qemu to provide sata ?
+ <youpi> braunr: there's an important trick: getting it on another IRQ than
+ the eth0 board :/
+ <youpi> -device ahci,id=ahci1
+ <youpi> for nothing
+ <youpi> -device ahci,id=ahci2
+ <youpi> -drive id=root,file=/dev/${HDA}7,cache=writeback,if=none
+ <youpi> -device ide-drive,drive=root,bus=ahci2.1
+ <braunr> ok that's close enough to what i have
+ <braunr> but
+ <braunr> i'm using /dev/sda as the backend
+ <braunr> instead of a regular file
+ <braunr> sda already containing a regular debian linux system
+ <braunr> and grub2 can't boot because it seems to fail reading the
+ partition table
+ <braunr> it works perfectly when accessing it as an ide disk though
+ <braunr> youpi: do you see any reason why grub would fail with ahci ?
+ <braunr> also, why ahci2._1_ instead of 0 ?
+ <braunr> youpi: fyi, the cd installer always booted fine here, both on my
+ workstation and my laptop, i did about 50 tries on each machine
+ <braunr> the graphical mode doesn't seem to work though
+ <braunr> youpi: fyi2 the grub related issue i'm having is
+ https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=692249
+ <youpi> I'm using .1 because I have a /boot .0 before the / .1 :)
+ <braunr> humm
+ <braunr> you have two drives ?
+ <youpi> braunr: (cd installer): you mean, even in semi-graphical mode?
+ <braunr> one for /boot and the other for / ?
+ <youpi> I have 3 actually :)
+ <braunr> youpi: no, xorg
+ <braunr> ok i se
+ <braunr> see
+ <youpi> (cd installer) I'm talking about the working ones :)
+ <youpi> I know xorg does not boot
+ <braunr> ok
+ <braunr> so apparently, adding ,boot=on to the -drive parameter did the
+ trick
+ <youpi> k
+ <braunr> and now, i have a hurd system running from /dev/sda5 (the real
+ disk) in qemu
+ <youpi> for the pseudo-graphical console, I guess his monitor is too dumb
+ to be able to display 640x400
+ <braunr> possible
+ <youpi> most probably because no OS uses that any more nowadays :/
+ <youpi> (and that won't get better)
+ <braunr> so now i can debug ahci on my laptop using that :)
+
+ <braunr> youpi: is there a known limit to the size of an ahci drive in the
+ gnumach driver ?
+ <youpi> in the driver itself, it's simply lba48
+ <youpi> but the mach interface uses 32bit sector number
+ <youpi> thus 2TB limit
+ <braunr> that's plenty :)
+ <youpi> I have a 2TB drive :)
+ <youpi> so it won't be plenty for long
+ <braunr> 2TB for your hurd system ?
+ <youpi> no, for my backups etc.
+ <braunr> i meant plenty for our hurd instances
+ <youpi> but there could have been a hurd vm there
+ <youpi> and not necesseraly below 2TiB
+
+ <braunr> hm, the installer doesn't detect existing partitions on an ahci
+ drive :/
+
+
+## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-02-13
+
+ <braunr> youpi: looks like linux has trouble handling my ahci drive without
+ ioapic/msi
+ <braunr> no wonder gnumach can't either
+ <youpi> erf